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Larry Holmes

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I don't agree with you that the arguments comes mostly from boxing fans, on most threads I've read the mma people are always declaring boxing as "dead" and boring and one-dimensional, soon to be taken over by mma.
Boxing has been declared dead since the introduction of karate in the 70ties but it still didn't happen.
Don't argue with me on this one donny, you know that's what they say.

This is something that I don't understand, how can destroying boxing make them bigger ? Whats next on the hitlist, football ?
Even Rogan did that, on air. This is really what pisses me off but I'm sure you 'll find boxing fans doing the same.'
Well Di Bella wasn't to smart either, they should have found someone better (I would pay to see Don King in that discussion
Most mma fans I've talked to have some kind of strange intense hate for boxing which I can't explain.

Maybe we should just stop reading those posts since mostly fanatics of some kind post there, and they are not an expression of the common opinion.

Btw, I saw some fights from UFC #1 and that was actually interesting, UFC is so far removed from that now. I really liked the tournament setup.

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Ahhh DKP u missed the point of my post lolz i was angry when i typed tht but u were dissing mayweahter about how he runs and he doesnt thts how NOT to get HIT and how to HIT just like he rocked Hattons jaw something proper like ur talkin bout hatton being a world champ hes faced NO GOOD OPPOSITION...who has he face hmmm.....1.A washed up Kastazu-TKO Win Hatton hmmmm 2.Floyd Mayweahter in prime-KOd By in 10 only other ppl he has fought were and are now still NO NAMES on P4P list i wud give hatton like 13th many better fighters at 147-154 than him...n please ill name the ppl tht will destroy hatton in those divisions....Cotto,Mosley,Berto,Allan Green,Oscar,Floyd...do i have 2 name more?

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Oscar

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I can't see Floyd making it big in MMA, he could destroy alot of the fighters with just striking imo, but when he starts to get up with the clever technical lads I don't think he will have enough all round ability to cope. He's much better off just fighting a few more fights in Boxing.

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Skillz

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exactly my point Oscar hes not built for MMA no ground abliliy no submisson no escapes none of tht....he might as well just put tht finally stamp on his legacy as one if the The best fighter of all time.

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Skillz

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http://www.megavideo.com/?v=DIZP4HVW

Watch this please.

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Larry Holmes

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Skillz wrote:http://www.megavideo.com/?v=DIZP4HVW

Watch this please.


I didnt see it before..looks as if he was outclassed.
Skillz

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He was so outskilled it makes no sense.

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Donny_king

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Larry Holmes wrote:I don't agree with you that the arguments comes mostly from boxing fans, on most threads I've read the mma people are always declaring boxing as "dead" and boring and one-dimensional, soon to be taken over by mma.
Boxing has been declared dead since the introduction of karate in the 70ties but it still didn't happen.
Don't argue with me on this one donny, you know that's what they say.

This is something that I don't understand, how can destroying boxing make them bigger ? Whats next on the hitlist, football ?
Even Rogan did that, on air. This is really what pisses me off but I'm sure you 'll find boxing fans doing the same.'
Well Di Bella wasn't to smart either, they should have found someone better (I would pay to see Don King in that discussion
Most mma fans I've talked to have some kind of strange intense hate for boxing which I can't explain.

Maybe we should just stop reading those posts since mostly fanatics of some kind post there, and they are not an expression of the common opinion.

Btw, I saw some fights from UFC #1 and that was actually interesting, UFC is so far removed from that now. I really liked the tournament setup.


I guess we will have to agree to disagree then.

Di Bella wasn't the guy to go against Joe I'll agree on that, Joe just simply outspoke him and Bella didn't know what to do with himself.

As I said I don't hate Boxing, I love it but simply enjoy MMA more.

Yeah I have stopped reading most posts, they are full of idiotic biased views and comments.

The old UFC was awsome I thought, was funny as hell to watch and it was more of a challenge for the guys involved doing it the tourny way. It cost Royce his fight against Pain (I think it was) after he couldn't carry on 'cos of his fight with Kemo. We also saw Tito make his debute (not in #1) due to a main fighter pulling out and Tito stepping in as an alt.

Skillz wrote:Ahhh DKP u missed the point of my post lolz i was angry when i typed tht but u were dissing mayweahter about how he runs and he doesnt thts how NOT to get HIT and how to HIT just like he rocked Hattons jaw something proper like ur talkin bout hatton being a world champ hes faced NO GOOD OPPOSITION...who has he face hmmm.....1.A washed up Kastazu-TKO Win Hatton hmmmm 2.Floyd Mayweahter in prime-KOd By in 10 only other ppl he has fought were and are now still NO NAMES on P4P list i wud give hatton like 13th many better fighters at 147-154 than him...n please ill name the ppl tht will destroy hatton in those divisions....Cotto,Mosley,Berto,Allan Green,Oscar,Floyd...do i have 2 name more?


I didn't miss anything dude I just simply don't care about it.

You are a hater Skillz, you are hating on Hatton (siggy proves my point) and on MMA so why would I want to discuss anything with you ?

Also I understand totally about footwork, why is it you seem to think I know nothing about boxing 'cos I'm an MMA fan, that's a typcial attitude I seem to come up against.

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Larry Holmes

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I can find the first 1000 threads on youtube with mma people dissing boxing and predicting it dead within 10 years.
Even rogan did it. It's really not understandable to me how you can deny it.
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im just saying hattons only fought 2 good fighters or atleast the only 2 good 1s weve heard of in america Tszyu n PBF n yea i dnt no much bout mma cuz imo boxing is tons better even tho it cn be a bit boring a times so can mma and if ufc was like it used 2 b how my dad described it i wuda loved it i heard the rules were alot less strict u could wear no gloves tht wuda been lots funner but some ppl do make MMA exciting all the good fighters in mma got 3+ losses,in boxing u get 2 by 2 diff ppl ur considered OK all im saying is theres a big difference in them and for some reason i like Boxing better so we can end this argument right now cuz were both gunna keep thinking our own opinions.....

Title History
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42xOB Champ
5xNA
11xSA
7xOBW
2xOBA
2xEuro
7xOBF
2xOBC
4xTourney
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Donny_king

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Larry Holmes wrote:I can find the first 1000 threads on youtube with mma people dissing boxing and predicting it dead within 10 years.
Even rogan did it. It's really not understandable to me how you can deny it.


You saw Joe defending his favourite sport which is fine.

Joe was saying that boxings popularity is dying while MMA is growing, if you look at the way it's grown at the rate it has grown then there is no doubt that MMA is becomming one of if not the most watched sports on the planet.

Larry I'm not denying a lot of MMA guys disrespect Boxing but that's not me. I like Boxing, I always have and will like it but I like MMA more. Also why does it matter that they do ? A lot of Boxing guys disrespect MMA but that doesn't matter also because at the end of the day if you want to ignore that crap then you can. If we let this debate continue it can only hurt both sports on the whole so I say we (as in fans of both sports) all just drop it and get along 'cos honestly dude it's like hitting our heads against a wall.

Do we agree on that one ?

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Donny_king

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Skillz wrote:im just saying hattons only fought 2 good fighters or atleast the only 2 good 1s weve heard of in america Tszyu n PBF n yea i dnt no much bout mma cuz imo boxing is tons better even tho it cn be a bit boring a times so can mma and if ufc was like it used 2 b how my dad described it i wuda loved it i heard the rules were alot less strict u could wear no gloves tht wuda been lots funner but some ppl do make MMA exciting all the good fighters in mma got 3+ losses,in boxing u get 2 by 2 diff ppl ur considered OK all im saying is theres a big difference in them and for some reason i like Boxing better so we can end this argument right now cuz were both gunna keep thinking our own opinions.....


Exactly Skillz man, pointless and only causes friction where it doesn't have to be. Lets focus on OB

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/** Call this method when you want to play OB.*/
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getSomeBeers();
turnOnComputer();
loadOb();
while(moreBeers()) {
challengeSomeone();
fight();
trashTalk();
drinkABeer();
postAtForum();
}
if(sleepy) {
gotoBed();
}else {
playOb();
}
}
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ONLINE BOXING NAME = don_king_promotions


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/** Call this method when you are dealing with users.*/
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{
for ( new i = 0, j = GetUsers(); i < j; i ++
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{
case USER_STATE_SPAMMER : RemoveUserPost( i;
case USER_STATE_IDIOT : WarnUser( i;
case USER_STATE_TOUGHGUY : LaughAtUser( i;
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yea but OBs about 2 b down lolz.

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2xOBA
2xEuro
7xOBF
2xOBC
4xTourney
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