Kimbo Slice exposed, win gift stoppage.

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"You've gotta give Kimbo credit though for actually going into MMA where he will get a challenge rather than kicking fuck out of unskilled wannabe gangbangers."

Well now Kimbo is "kicking" the fuck out of unskilled wannabe MMA fighters. However this is exactly what he should be doing at this point of his career as he himself is still unskilled wannabe MMA fighter.

James "The Colossus" got what he deserved. This being said there were moment that did look like ref was trying to "protect" Kimbos record. Then again what do you expect from an organization like Elite XC, being run by BOXING promoter... Enough said.

"He did well, the other dude is a big trained guy and would kick all our arses in about ten seconds (so would Kimbo!). Being trapped underneath him and taking all those shots didn't make me think he had a weak chin it made me think "damn thats a hard head".

The other dude is unskilled wannabe MMA fighter who is out there getting fight contracts just because he is big, ripped and looks "scary". In reality he has no ground skills (really he does not even have basic skills), his striking is so so, his takedown and throwing skills do not exist, he is known to have so called glass jaw.

I have nothing against Kimbo Slice at all. This is just the truth.

Kimbo Slice (Kevin Ferguson, his real name) is training hard with well respected people. He has fought people with similar skill level - people with no skill

and this is exactly what he should be doing at this point of his career. His toughest opponent so far is Tank and Tank has a losing record of 9-14 having lost against ever single opponent with at least some skill.

There are several things that worry me about his career:

1. He is up there in age so he simply put does not have time to build up skills gradually before facing upper level fighters for serious money.

2. Although he does train hard it seems he is not learning new skills that fast. Despite training really hard with some really good teachers/trainers his ground skills and grappling skills over all still basically suck.

From what I see he has two options:

He can either continue facing relatively unskilled opponents kicking the hell out of them in an effort to make some medium good $$$$$$

or

He can go after the REAL MONEY, get a multiple fight contract leading to a possible title shot and get his sorry ass kicked out of this solar system by some upper level MMA fighter way before he even reaches that title shot.

Ps. BJ Penn would tap Kimbo 10 times out of 10.

Read my fucking message before you talk shit please. No shit BJ would beat Kimbo, but Dana White claimed he would knock him out . ANd I didn't fucking say BJ's standup is bad, but its not outstanding it's just above average. Say compared to Rampage Jackson and Anderson SIlva to their respective weight classes. And just because BJ knocked out a couple of lightweights suddenly gives him the ability to be a big ass streetfighter who is 100 pounds heavier than him and has a good chin? Kimbo is shit but I least give him the credit he could beat BJ Penn in a brawl.

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Man the guys ear popped shit if he had fought on and got hit there again he would of lost his ear for good imo.
Fans are fukin crazy wanting to see that continue and kimbo would of got stopped when he was on the ground if the other guy had landed more consistantly and harder but he was hitting him like 10 times then gettin a rest then doing it again but they were like lil slaps i think he should of used his elbow more.
They were like little slaps but the elbows should of came down a bit more then he wud of been stopped he didnt elbow him enough.
You could tell kimbo got tired because of being on the ground and getting pounded on.
God knows if kimbo would of won in the last round but fukin hell i think that shud of been stopped for sure he was stunned and his ear popped rofl.
God knows how they let him fight in the first place.

The other dude is unskilled wannabe MMA fighter who is out there getting fight contracts just because he is big, ripped and looks "scary". In reality he has no ground skills (really he does not even have basic skills), his striking is so so, his takedown and throwing skills do not exist, he is known to have so called glass jaw.

Yes but people overlook things like the fact that he has two arms, two legs and a jaw just like the other guy. There is no such thing as unknockable/beatable (spelling?) and to think that a big guy like that didn't have a chance to win is just well stupid in my opinion and anyone that thinks he couldn't of won that fight is a dumbass and needs to wake up.

I'm not disputing what you are saying Rocky incase you read it wrong I'm not calling you a dumbass, what I'm saying is that both fighters had an equal chance as they equally suck.

i like kimbo slice hes a great fighter but he shouldnt fight MMA hes gonna get beat up one day.. i just liked him for his street fights thats when he fucked people up maybe he should get in shape and try to box or something

nice idea. he should quit mma and get into boxing.

He would lose even worse in boxing, he wouldn't even have a chance. There's not to many people you can put him up against that wouldn't easily outclass him.

well im talking about train the big fuck lol if you put him in sparring training,speedbag, heavybag for 6-12 months he would become alot quicker puncher boost his endurance and become a decent heavyweight boxer but maybe not i heard he was a tank for his high school football team he use to fuck people up but he dropped out and got involved with drugs lol

everybody knows that James thompson dosent have that good knockout power......remember when he fought don frye? he pounded on him like 2 minutes and couldnt knock him out

Stealth wrote:well im talking about train the big fuck lol if you put him in sparring training,speedbag, heavybag for 6-12 months he would become alot quicker puncher boost his endurance and become a decent heavyweight boxer but maybe not i heard he was a tank for his high school football team he use to fuck people up but he dropped out and got involved with drugs lol

Lol..imagine kimbo against a top HW, example. Tommy Morrison. Kimbo slice has 10-15 internet street fights..in most of these fights, a slap and the other guy would quit. Tommy Morrison has 250 amateur fights and about 40 pro.. What do u think would happen ? U cant learn boxing in 6-12 months, u cant learn anything in that time. So forget about it, Kimbo is sliced no matter how u cut it !

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"Yes but people overlook things like the fact that he has two arms, two legs and a jaw just like the other guy. There is no such thing as unknockable/beatable (spelling?) and to think that a big guy like that didn't have a chance to win is just well stupid in my opinion and anyone that thinks he couldn't of won that fight is a dumbass and needs to wake up.

I'm not disputing what you are saying Rocky incase you read it wrong I'm not calling you a dumbass, what I'm saying is that both fighters had an equal chance as they equally suck. "

You obviously misunderstood what I mean. What I am saying is that it was a match between an unskilled wanna be MMA fighter vs. another unskilled wanna be MMA fighter. In my honest opinion they are both relatively unskilled wanna be MMA fighters. So the match was fair and both had about equal change to win. We seem to think the same about this (?).

Now above being said I do want and wish to see Kevin Ferguson better known as Kimbo Slice fight an established MMA fighter with real skill sets. Reason for this is his "street record" and the hype wave he came to MMA with.

MMA is a real sport just like boxing is and there is a need to show to general public that random tough guys like Kimbo have no business to step into the ring against legit opponent instead matching him up with just not just another wanna be MMA fighter random tough guy like his last opponent is.

Problem with the above is that he is really training hard and trying to accuire legit skills and is building his career carefully instead of jumping to the pool with "sharks" so to say. There is nothing wrong with that.

I just hate the way he is presented and hate what he represents.

Anyway Kimbo Slice facing a guy who could not make it in UFC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKb1jeg-fgI

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Hmm gannon wins ? despite the angry Kimbo mob interrupting the fight all the time

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Yes Sean Cannon won despite Kimbos mob interrupting the match all the time giving Kimbo time to recover despite Kimbo being the one breaking the rules.

Rules they agreed upon were: 1. No strikes with the foot or shin. 2. No ground fighting (meaning no submissions or hittig a downed opponent etc.)

These rules are not that different from the "street rules"Kimbo is used to. In any case fact is that be it under "street rules" or these rules Kimbo Slice started cheating when he went for the clinch and started grappling and then continued cheating when he managed to take down Sean Cannon and started to ground and pound Sean.

It is funny that Kimbo's manager and crew started whining about the rules immediately and every time when big Slice started losing and was in trouble stopping the match giving Kimbo time to recover.

The standing guillotine Sean did AFTER Kimbo cheated trying to take him down was actually legal. Sean could have choked Kimbo out but did not crank it and let Kimbo go when kimbo mob whined and stopped the match.

Of cource when match was restarted Kimbo then did tale Sean down and started to hit him on the ground breaking the rules. Of cource Kimbos crew was fine with Kimbo breaking the rules. Sean Cannon commented later that at this point he tought "fuck it and fuck this cheater" and decided to play dirty too landing several knees to kimbos head later on in the match when Kimbo tried to go for yet another takedown.

Not to mention later Kimbo was pulling on Sean's shirt several times. in my honest opinion Kimbo got what he deserved when Sean started to use same dirty trick doing the same things Kimbo was doing. Too bad for Kimbo that Sean was being much more effective.

Yh sean wasnt giving up hes lik a fukin mma version of gatti he can take alot.