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Skillz
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Ok there's been controversy over the "Online Boxing Hall of Fame" for a long time.
OB needs serious change. including the HOF Voting System.
It doesn't make sense..the old system.
Reason being is that most of the current Hall of Famer's don't even play anymore. Or even stop in once in a while to check the forum.
The only "HOF'ers" that are still SEMI-here are.
Fatny, HTF, Larry Holmes, Sal.
They should not be the only one's able to vote for this.
It's not fair to all the players that haven't neccessarily "Dominated" OB like a select few others.
To be honest some of the old Hall of Famer's can't even stand up to the ability of most of these guys even while in there prime.
Every person that's not realitivly new should be able to vote.
Hall of Fame voting should be a Democracy.
So that being said. These are the fighters that MOST people on OB think should be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
1.Tyrant-i mean this guy has been here forever a dedicated OB user. Revolutionary style. i mean who else can win fights without one body shot?? also he's trained many fighters to be great, most notable the "Greatest of All-Time" NewGuy/Here To FIght.
2.Sugarray-one of the best fighters that OB has seen. always respected by the best of the best period. during the "One World Title" days of OB he held OBW as much and aswell as anyone of our current HOFer's.Perfected the classic Jab to the Body into a combo.
3.Fernando Vargas-Has been here a while, dominated during multiple spans of time.Has consitantly been at the Top, consitantly dominated good fighters. with out a doubt one of the most respected and best fighters of this era.
4.Black Bear-dominated just a much as "Fatny" around the same time before his retirement has been away from the game for a while but is still one of the best. One of the best defenses EVER.
5.Red Viper-Last but not least the "Red Bomber", unquestionably the most revolutionary style in OB history nobody can match his style let alone perfect it like he has. The best KO finisher in history, once he has u hurt it's pretty much over with.Over 6000 wins. Non-Padded. Been here almost as long as anyone (Larry)...about 7 years strong into OB. always active no matter what.
So those are My reason's why these fighters DESERVE to be in the game's Hall of Fame. These fighters have done a magnitude of different, dominating, revolutionary things within this game. Through many different periods. and the games up's and down's.
Please consider these people in to the OB HoF Mikkel. They are more than "worthy".
If anyone disagree's please discuss.
-Skillz-
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06/01/2009 18:39:01
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johnbludger
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nice said but the HOF'ers are going to disagree like always
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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06/01/2009 19:47:31
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Barrack Obama
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The HOFers that are around today as well as Mikkel are the only ones that can cast a vote. It's always been that way and it should stay that way to prevent the HOF from becoming a joke.
There are a lot of very good players today that just need to become extremely consistent in order to one day become HOF. We can't just nominate popular players or players that have been here for years.
For the one millionth time, if someone is truly worthy of HOF consideration, they won't have to constantly inquire about it. They'll just know because they'll be sitting at the top holding all the titles beating just about everyone. Further, an old school HOFer like me will eventually take notice and push for their induction.
The only players that have been close to getting my vote are Fernando Vargas, Black Bear, and Nigel Benn. However, they didn't stick around long enough and let their primes slip away. Now if they come back and kick some hardcore ass, I won't have an issue casting them my vote.
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06/01/2009 19:53:29
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Skillz
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What about sugarray? he stands up to everything u just said.
as well as bear he was consistant beating everyone for like a year b4 his retirement?
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06/01/2009 19:56:24
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Barrack Obama
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Skillz wrote:What about sugarray? he stands up to everything u just said.
as well as bear he was consistant beating everyone for like a year b4 his retirement?
I've always liked that guy, but I personally never saw him as a HOFer because his style never really gave me problems when I was at my best. I also wasn't here when he was at his best so it's hard for me to gauge how good he really was at that point.
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06/01/2009 19:57:48
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Barrack Obama
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Skillz wrote:What about sugarray? he stands up to everything u just said.
as well as bear he was consistant beating everyone for like a year b4 his retirement?
Perhaps Bear's biggest mistake was not sticking around to dominate after Fatny retired. I really wish that guy would come back.
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06/01/2009 20:02:36
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johnbludger
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Yes that true but theres 7 HOF'ers that doesnt play anymore they can comeback and vote no to the future HOF'er.
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JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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06/01/2009 20:03:52
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johnbludger
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o yeah Sal i won 20 titles now
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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06/01/2009 20:04:35
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Skillz
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Bear dominated while Fatny was here. than retired. i forgot why...
ray was at the top for a while when u left. one of the best boxers rarely got hit..was up there with HTF,Larry and the rest at tht time even beyond some of them.
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06/01/2009 22:02:40
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Barrack Obama wrote:The HOFers that are around today as well as Mikkel are the only ones that can cast a vote. It's always been that way and it should stay that way to prevent the HOF from becoming a joke.
There are a lot of very good players today that just need to become extremely consistent in order to one day become HOF. We can't just nominate popular players or players that have been here for years.
For the one millionth time, if someone is truly worthy of HOF consideration, they won't have to constantly inquire about it. They'll just know because they'll be sitting at the top holding all the titles beating just about everyone. Further, an old school HOFer like me will eventually take notice and push for their induction.
The only players that have been close to getting my vote are Fernando Vargas, Black Bear, and Nigel Benn. However, they didn't stick around long enough and let their primes slip away. Now if they come back and kick some hardcore ass, I won't have an issue casting them my vote.
I highly disagree with all of this bullshit you just said. I personally think your way of electing people into the HOF is corrupted a way to elect people. You think people like me, sugarray, Tyrant and others being in the HOF is a joke to you. This has nothing to do of me being popular and being around for years shit. I have proven skills and I am very close to be worthy induction to the HOF, but your crappy way is ruining chances for me and other people.
Why you think Vargas, Benn and Black Bear considered to be hall of famers. The only person should be considered HOF material out of three youve just listed is Black Bear. Vargas hides behind alts, what a joke. About Nigel Benn, I am better than he is and that is a fact. Black Bear is not coming back anytime soon. Vargas will hide in an alt and Nigel Benn is washed up.
Your personal vandetta against me will continue because you will keep calling me overrated, a joke, has been, washed up, garbage, a bragger and other bullshit. You may be more skilled than me but I am not going to put up with your load of crap and keep putting me down like some street punk you think I am
I think the better way to elect people to the HOF for the following rules.
1. Have 30 titles or more
2. Have over 100 title defenses or more
3. Have an 70% winning percentage or above
4. Beat the very best fighters for titles.
5. Have the majority vote by everyone in the game, not JUST the HOF'ers themselves.
I think that is a better way, your way is retarded. Doesn't matter how good I become, you will never consider me to the HOF because your a punk, plain and simple.
Heres what I think who should go into the HOF. The other people I would consider are Tyrant, sugarray Black Bear and me
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Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
Future HOF
The Yacoob Killer
OB Name- Red Viper
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Was one of the minority that broke Rocky Marciano's defense in half.
Won a title by KO'ing the opponent with only Uppercuts
The Greatest KO Artist in OB History
120x Online Boxing World Champion
More than 270 defenses.
Multiple time undisputed champion
Real close of becoming superchamp
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06/01/2009 22:23:54
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Richard Simmons
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Red Viper wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:The HOFers that are around today as well as Mikkel are the only ones that can cast a vote. It's always been that way and it should stay that way to prevent the HOF from becoming a joke.
There are a lot of very good players today that just need to become extremely consistent in order to one day become HOF. We can't just nominate popular players or players that have been here for years.
For the one millionth time, if someone is truly worthy of HOF consideration, they won't have to constantly inquire about it. They'll just know because they'll be sitting at the top holding all the titles beating just about everyone. Further, an old school HOFer like me will eventually take notice and push for their induction.
The only players that have been close to getting my vote are Fernando Vargas, Black Bear, and Nigel Benn. However, they didn't stick around long enough and let their primes slip away. Now if they come back and kick some hardcore ass, I won't have an issue casting them my vote.
I highly disagree with all of this bullshit you just said. I personally think your way of electing people into the HOF is corrupted a way to elect people. You think people like me, sugarray, Tyrant and others being in the HOF is a joke to you. This has nothing to do of me being popular and being around for years shit. I have proven skills and I am very close to be worthy induction to the HOF, but your crappy way is ruining chances for me and other people.
Why you think Vargas, Benn and Black Bear considered to be hall of famers. The only person should be considered HOF material out of three youve just listed is Black Bear. Vargas hides behind alts, what a joke. About Nigel Benn, I am better than he is and that is a fact. Black Bear is not coming back anytime soon. Vargas will hide in an alt and Nigel Benn is washed up.
Your personal vandetta against me will continue because you will keep calling me overrated, a joke, has been, washed up, garbage, a bragger and other bullshit. You may be more skilled than me but I am not going to put up with your load of crap and keep putting me down like some street punk you think I am
I think the better way to elect people to the HOF for the following rules.
1. Have 30 titles or more
2. Have over 100 title defenses or more
3. Have an 70% winning percentage or above
4. Beat the very best fighters for titles.
5. Have the majority vote by everyone in the game, not JUST the HOF'ers themselves.
I think that is a better way, your way is retarded. Doesn't matter how good I become, you will never consider me to the HOF because your a punk, plain and simple.
Heres what I think who should go into the HOF. The other people I would consider are Tyrant, sugarray Black Bear and me
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14- OBW
10- OBA
4- SA
6- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
Future HOF
The Yacoob Killer
OB Name- Red Viper
I agree with Red Viper , Barrack Obama/Sal is stupid ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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06/01/2009 22:42:04
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johnbludger
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have to admit Red Viper has a better way but you forgot one thing become superchamp
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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06/01/2009 22:45:31
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johnbludger wrote:have to admit Red Viper has a better way but you forgot one thing become superchamp
How in the hell I become Superchamp if Ricky Hatton never defends his titles.
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14- OBW
10- OBA
4- SA
6- OBF
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1- Tournament
1- PDP
Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
Future HOF
The Yacoob Killer
OB Name- Red Viper
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Active as of right now
Was one of the minority that broke Rocky Marciano's defense in half.
Won a title by KO'ing the opponent with only Uppercuts
The Greatest KO Artist in OB History
120x Online Boxing World Champion
More than 270 defenses.
Multiple time undisputed champion
Real close of becoming superchamp
I am the punishment of God…
If you had not committed great sins,
God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you- Genghis Khan
Respect yourself and others will respect you- Confucius
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To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle- Confucius
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06/01/2009 22:51:09
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johnbludger
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Red if Reaper and I can beat him im pretty sure you can beat him
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JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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06/01/2009 22:53:06
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Skillz
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Superchamp doesnt mean shitt..winning titles is easy, its the keeping them thats hard.
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