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15/01/2009 12:42:50
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Barrack Obama
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I was thinking about this the other day. How many of the old school greats were able to successfully transition from the original version to OB2D? In other words, how many of the original OB greats have been great on this version as well?
Here's my list (in no particular order)
Larry Holmes: For those of you who've seen him display greatness on OB2D, you should've seen him on the original version. This former OB2D Super Champ was IMO the best all around fighter on the original version. He also happens to be one of the greatest all around fighters to play OB2D.
M.A. Barrera: MAB is the guy that introduced me to this game back in 2002-2003. He and I had such a fierce rivalry that it only served to make us both better. He was extremely good on the original version but did not fully come into his own until OB2D. He's one of the greatest sluggers to ever play.
Salvador-Sanchez: I became a HOFer on the original version after just 3-4 months of play, no joke. When I first started playing, there was only one title and it was held by Muhammad Ali, a slow connection fighter at the time with a ping of about 300-400. After becoming obsessed with OB and after having failed in numerous title bids, I finally rested the title from Ali and went on a mad run. After that, I soon became a HOFer and a top 3 fighter. Boy did we have some battles back then.
When OB2D first came out, I hated it because I missed the original version. However, after constant playing I finally became a Super Champ under Happy Killmore. After that I stopped consistently playing for many years, and came back last year with the goal of becoming Super Champ again. Luckily, I managed to accomplish the feat once again.
HOFers who were never able to fully shine on OB2D
I hope these guys don't take this as a knock, but there are several HOFers that for some reason or another were never able to make the full transition.
Labratory: On the way up he was our whipping boy but after about 6 months he became a total beast. At one point, this guy fought about 100 times a day. LOL IMO, in his prime, he was the best OB1 fighter ever. His speed and boxing skill were totally unreal.
However, on OB2D he never really made much of an impact and just gave up.
Mike Tyson: Mike Tyson was always in the top 5 on the original version. Back then he was extremely active and one of the few guys that could give Labratory problems. He was a definite HOFer on the original version.
However, on OB2D, he has never become a Super Champ and looking through past top 10 archives, I don't believe he's even been greater than borderline top 5 at any one point. I wish he'd become active again so he can attempt to become an OB2D Super Champ for the first time.
Now many people will say that Fatny is the greatest ever, but I must disagree. While Fatny is probably (although I believe one can make a case for a prime NewGuy) the greatest to play OB2D so far, he wasn't around for the original version. Therefore, I personally have always given the nod to Larry Holmes.
Let me explain why.
Larry Holmes was at times the best fighter on the original version and later no worse than top 5. On OB2D, he has also had his great moments, holds the Super Champ accomplishment, and from what I've heard he was #2 to Fatny on this game for awhile.
It'll be interesting to hear thoughts from others who were around as far back as 2002-2003.
This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 15/01/2009 13:50:08
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15/01/2009 12:59:28
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Paul Dion
Joined: 22/11/2006 14:30:30
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Does the Muhammed Ali guy have any other alts?
When I was new to the game years ago...he taught me A LOT!!!
That guy was my first and original trainer really...then he dissapeared!
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- Paul Dion Junior: W320 L165 (KO319)
- Join Date: 2006
- Status: Active
- 7 time OBW World Champion
- 3 time OBC World Champion
- 1 time OBF World Champion
- 1 time Tournament World Champion
- Style: Elusive Defence and Counter Punch
- Signature Punch: The Dion Double Hook
- Signature Taunt: The Dion Crouch and Point
- Paul Dion Promotions record: 5-7
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15/01/2009 13:37:13
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Tyrant
Joined: 20/04/2006 19:48:23
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I've long considered Larry Holmes the greatest fighter in OB history. Guys like Labratory, HTF and Fatny showed more "God given, finger talent", however Larry's been the most solid & consistent. He has been #1 or #2 in EVERY major era that mattered.
There was never an era where he wasn't atop the list battling it out with whoever was the best at that time. Not just giving them a fight, but winning and at times dominating each era.
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ONLINE BOXING NAME = Tyrant
MEMBER SINCE = Feb 2003
OB CHAMPIONSHIPS = Numerous
RECORD: 3761-1464-101 (3157 KOS)
EXPERIENCE = Throwing body jabs since 2003
STATUS = Officially Retired (2014)
TOUGHEST OPPOSITION: Larry Holmes, Sugarray, Here To Fight, Salvador-Sanchez/El Terrible Morales, Labratory, Mike Tyson, M.A.Barrera
FAVORITE OPPONENT: Sugarray
LOCATION = U.S.
FIGHTINGSTYLE = Defensive Counter Puncher
SIGNATURE PUNCH = Long Body Jab
SIGNATURE COMBO = Lean back jab->long uppercut
OB CLASS = Maybe one day second ballot HOF'er
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15/01/2009 16:34:40
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Mikkel
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I promised you once that I would bring back the old OB1 version and as soon as I get a little extra time I'll do that.
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15/01/2009 16:37:11
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Professor
Joined: 06/10/2006 18:19:47
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Whats the difference?
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OBID: ProfsBack
Status: Active
Multiple OB champ
I took Fatny's streak. 7/1/2008
Offensive Style: Power Puncher/ KO Artist
Defensive Style: Lean Spam
OB Master of Styles
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15/01/2009 16:39:04
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Mikkel
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Look at Tyrants sig..
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15/01/2009 16:40:58
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Professor
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I know, I played it once when I was like 9, I didnt understand it though. But I didn't think it was any different besides graphics.
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OBID: ProfsBack
Status: Active
Multiple OB champ
I took Fatny's streak. 7/1/2008
Offensive Style: Power Puncher/ KO Artist
Defensive Style: Lean Spam
OB Master of Styles
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15/01/2009 16:51:07
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Skillz
Joined: 19/04/2006 11:00:44
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Mikkel isnt OB 1 the game Tyrant has in his avatar?
Or is it the one with him kd MAB? just a diff version of current OB.
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42xOB Champ
5xNA
11xSA
7xOBW
2xOBA
2xEuro
7xOBF
2xOBC
4xTourney
P4P
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15/01/2009 16:51:48
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Skillz
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Btw. You should bring back the old ring, ive always liked that one better lol.
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42xOB Champ
5xNA
11xSA
7xOBW
2xOBA
2xEuro
7xOBF
2xOBC
4xTourney
P4P
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15/01/2009 19:35:06
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Barrack Obama
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Mikkel wrote:I promised you once that I would bring back the old OB1 version and as soon as I get a little extra time I'll do that.
That would be great. It would bring back a ton of memories. Thanks Mikkel.
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16/01/2009 08:44:51
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Tyrant
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It's the one in my avatar that was the first incarnation of the game. The difference went a bit beyond graphical changes. Timing, collision detection (what distance you needed to be to land punches), movement and punch animations were a big change for us. It took some getting used to. So those that completely mastered the previous version had trouble. Then came some new punches, defense and the monster left hook.
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ONLINE BOXING NAME = Tyrant
MEMBER SINCE = Feb 2003
OB CHAMPIONSHIPS = Numerous
RECORD: 3761-1464-101 (3157 KOS)
EXPERIENCE = Throwing body jabs since 2003
STATUS = Officially Retired (2014)
TOUGHEST OPPOSITION: Larry Holmes, Sugarray, Here To Fight, Salvador-Sanchez/El Terrible Morales, Labratory, Mike Tyson, M.A.Barrera
FAVORITE OPPONENT: Sugarray
LOCATION = U.S.
FIGHTINGSTYLE = Defensive Counter Puncher
SIGNATURE PUNCH = Long Body Jab
SIGNATURE COMBO = Lean back jab->long uppercut
OB CLASS = Maybe one day second ballot HOF'er
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17/01/2009 08:56:50
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Donny_king
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Yay original OB
I started playing just after the GFX change so I never saw/used them so I will defo have to drag my ass on and get it whooped a few times (well you can try that is hehe).
I know I said I was done playing like a year ago or whatever and I'm normally a man of my word but in this case I think I can make an exception don't you
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[code]
/** Call this method when you want to play OB.*/
public void playOb() {
getSomeBeers();
turnOnComputer();
loadOb();
while(moreBeers()) {
challengeSomeone();
fight();
trashTalk();
drinkABeer();
postAtForum();
}
if(sleepy) {
gotoBed();
}else {
playOb();
}
}
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ONLINE BOXING NAME = don_king_promotions
menicaha behaniclo
[code]
/** Call this method when you are dealing with users.*/
stock HandleUsers()
{
for ( new i = 0, j = GetUsers(); i < j; i ++
{
if ( !IsUserConnected( i continue;
switch ( GetUserState( i
{
case USER_STATE_SPAMMER : RemoveUserPost( i;
case USER_STATE_IDIOT : WarnUser( i;
case USER_STATE_TOUGHGUY : LaughAtUser( i;
default : IgnoreUser( i;
}
}
return 1;
}
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18/01/2009 02:26:22
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johnbludger
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Tyrant wrote:I've long considered Larry Holmes the greatest fighter in OB history. Guys like Labratory, HTF and Fatny showed more "God given, finger talent", however Larry's been the most solid & consistent. He has been #1 or #2 in EVERY major era that mattered.
There was never an era where he wasn't atop the list battling it out with whoever was the best at that time. Not just giving them a fight, but winning and at times dominating each era.
how many eras were there?
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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19/01/2009 00:47:23
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Skillz
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Erasss uhh.
1-Original OB-OB1
2-OB2D (before it had stamina and stuff.)
3-OB2D(now)
4-OB3D (soon)
I THINK.Pretty sure tho. =P
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42xOB Champ
5xNA
11xSA
7xOBW
2xOBA
2xEuro
7xOBF
2xOBC
4xTourney
P4P
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19/01/2009 00:48:28
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johnbludger
Joined: 24/08/2008 22:48:05
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actually theres 5 eras, OB2D with new arena
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John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53
OB Style: "The John Style"
OB Status: Active
OB Member Since: May 2007
OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock
OB Class: Hall of Fame
All-Time Winning Streak: 198
1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29
The Legend
The Beast
The Machine
"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon
"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny |
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