23rd of July! Theres gonna be war!!!

also know for a fact I am alot further along then anyone on here in regards to combative arts.

Yes because you can tell that by the way we type. Dude you don't know everyone on here so don't assume just because we don't talk about it we don't know what we are on about/doing.

A lot of guys on here know a lot about Boxing and the others know a lot about MMA. Some guys train some guys don't and some guys are a lot older and a lot more advanced in the arts than they let people know.

Don't judge a book by it's cover man that's all I am saying and at the end of the day everyone has the same disadvantage no matter what they have trained in, it's called being human.

Donny_king wrote:

also know for a fact I am alot further along then anyone on here in regards to combative arts.

Yes because you can tell that by the way we type. Dude you don't know everyone on here so don't assume just because we don't talk about it we don't know what we are on about/doing.

A lot of guys on here know a lot about Boxing and the others know a lot about MMA. Some guys train some guys don't and some guys are a lot older and a lot more advanced in the arts than they let people know.

Don't judge a book by it's cover man that's all I am saying and at the end of the day everyone has the same disadvantage no matter what they have trained in, it's called being human.

yeah i think there was a world kung fu champ who used to play regularly on here??

well shock and awe im a taekwondo/kickboxing and i feel that going 12 rounds compared to 5 rounds is the same thing

in sparring it takes a toll to throw kicks and best to use them rarely. but if you see pernell whitaker who throws(on average) 100 punches a round...what do you expect from a mma fighter who is trying to compose his energy and strength for one big hit...

i have seen mma guys gettin gkoed by a JAB now the first defence is to BLOCK why is a man relying on his slippign skills when a left hand parry would scuttle it away.

the point about boxing is that it is about skill and ability. in mma the biggerman has the better chanceand i dont mean by big being butterbean esque just heavier in stature...the defence in mma is to weave away it's good but you WILL get tagged sooner or later.

im not against mma it's just this belif that it "pwns" everything is rediculus tell me if kimbo had fought ray mercer in a boxing match what would be the result...im sure it would be a jab and cross win for mercer. using his reach his stamina and his regular workrate.

they are totally different things and to say that one is better is comparing wood to plastic yea they can be used to make shelves and equipment...but they are in no way the same.

Larry Holmes wrote:Lol Ray Sefo has NOT better hands than everyone. In fact they are at best average.

if he was trained to be a boxer then i would let him into a pro fight but throwing him in with a boxer puncher with a decent record and he aint gonna last.

k-1 is a far closer comparison. if sefo had trained in boxing for alot longer and learnt the skills to defend all punches then it would be far more interesting.

i would say he did have good power but for a heavywieght it was light contact...not alot of technique just raw throwing fist to point A to point B

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and one more thing

My fav boxers are de la hoya ghatti Ali and tyson in his prime

if you said that list on a boxing forum you would get crucified.

de la hoya-is an amazing athlete but his politics to get belts and stay well clear form mandatories is unheard of.... at least ray leonard forght the best in thier prime hearns,benitez,lalonde .but going form super feather to middlewieght is unheard of(though he did get a hiding and should of lost to sturm)he is the most luckiest fighter i have ever heard of. got gift and i mean GIFT judge calls.

quartey-ike left hooked his way to victory all night and not at one time did delahoya stop the hook coming

sturm- as a i mentioned above was jabbing moving staying on his feet didnt get tapped hard while oscar just tried to barge his man out the way which he couldnt do.

even in the mosley fight he was only 2 points away from getting a draw

how bad is that.
he is a celebrity not a boxer

gatti-was a punch bag that fought back. everyone wants to fight him not becuase he is a great opposition but becuase he makes everyone look like sugar ray clay jones jr out there makes them look like amazing fighters. his power was incredible but only becuase he kept coming was the reason why he koed guys.the worst defence form a modern fighter hands down

(see what i did there i said hands down becuase that where he leaves his hands man im one funny guy).

ali and tyson- great choice but it's a bit blatent. if you asked someone on the street who thier favorite fighter it would be tyson...then ali.
but both men were superb fighters in total comparisons.

Lol the worst record ever..poor guy

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=048336

lol can i show you the worse boxing records in history

the anti-marciano eric crumble
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=5316

the 2nd most fights in boxing history
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=4741

lol nice records....so... back on topic,castillo got punished with that body hit :-0

lol jigsaw nice chainsaw

thanx man

i cut reaper up with it everytime i fight him