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Mikkel wrote:
Titan wrote:
Mikkel wrote:You're the one who needs a reality check. Games been online more than 10 years. Singleplayer at least online 5-6 years.
Where are the millions of players you talk about ?


1. I am more worth than 1 million other players.
2. Man, you got the very good boxing game that delivers a real challenge for boxing fans. The problem is that 999 999 dont know that the game exist. And thats just your fault because you are a noob in advertisement
3. I bet you are angry vs. me now because i told you that

Angry for telling me what ? You said yourself that it's a marketing problem, not singleplayer problem.
Anyway, going to put it on then..but might take a month or two. And you gotta live with the sucky AI.



And herein lies the problem. You've just said you know what the problem is, Why don't you do anything about it. You have identified it and prefer to spend your time squabbling in a forum and doing things you don't wanna even do you Fucking Moron.

I have Offered You Countless times to help with Marketing OB and Advertising on a Serious Level, and you have ignored me, or not given/shown me any correspondence / Support / Enthusiasm or Incentive of any Kind.

This Post of Mikkels I Have Highlighted does Not only show Mikkels Attitude as a Whole But is the Very reason for why OB is the way it is, is not going to change and OB's future.

He has shown he knows what the problem is.

The last message from me that you 'couldn't open' was me saying - in following up our messages regarding me helping u / trying to help you with advertising - that I cannot help u with it because of the above Reason.


This is the Belt Mikkel Used to be wearing: ------------------

This is the Belt Mikkel IS wearing : ---==????==---

This is the Belt Mikkel SHOULD be wearing: ---==OOOO==---
Mikkel wrote:I can see it..yet I don't have time because of 3D right now.


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Mikkel wrote:Its like if I fix one thing, people just want me to fix the next. If I fix singleplayer, people will just ask about something else. Like leagues, automated tournaments, more faces, bodytypes, backgrounds, new punches etc etc.
It just never stops.
I see your point with singleplayer though..but I think you overestimate its value for new players.
Singleplayer was there for years, and it didnt really bring more players in.


Leagues - Don't need to worry about that , and possibly for the future?

Automated Tournaments - Same as Leagues, again it's nice and something to think about long into the future, but u need to prioritize things, there are things that NEED to be done and there are 'improvements' which u can think about later

Bodytypes, Backrounds - Don't need to think about this at all

New Punches - Definately Not

New Hairstyles, Shorts Colours - Possibly Again in the future.

SinglePlayer - This is something which is more of a necessity and you should think about.

Punch Stats - Percentages of punches landed Per round. Possibly for the future.


I think you're right and you don't get enough credit you deserve. You probably think I'm putting you down wen I say those things about enthusiasm but im not. You definitely have done loads of quality work that isn't recognized but I just think your only means of reward for that is to get money through popularity of this game SOMEHOW, and I would assume advertising. I think others agree and this is why they are so enthusiastic about it and support this idea.

I just see what it would take to Slowly gain popularity and I mean Slow. It would be a long hard slug of different things Just to get it to a 'normal' amount of ppl, or how it was.. but I believe that wen u do that, It does Not take much more to go from there to a comparatively Larger Success and popularity Mikkel. It is Definately a test of patience, hard work and Trust/ Faith Mikkel. But there are certain things which are More important to be done to start with and more essential. You need to prioritize these things and build it up slowly knowing and trusting things will improve.

The freezes and Spam have been the first 2 of 3 in my opinion and Hats off to you for doing that, much respect. - SinglePlayer being the 3rd.

I Definately believe ppls attitude will change towards the game if you do this and help ppl stay on when they join but pp.'s attitude needs to change Anyway. What Keeps New People on when they Join is You (Anyone playing) When someone Joins and asks how u play? How u fight? and how u punch? And ppl ignore them they Leave. Or just responding in general. A Blank text Box with not even seein the game makes for someone not to understand the game at all and just go. Ppl have gotta be more welcomin in general but doing improvements will help All these things and so many things in general that will increase numbers. If only you could see it

All Hail Mikkel.
I think this issue should be resolved. Your right Mikkel about things being never ending but there are things that you could avoid and things you shouldn't. Most of the things you just mentioned you dont have to do but you could do lol and it would help.

Also Single player is something that WOULD in my opinion make a difference. There are reasons for why it would make people stay NOW and not have done before.

Also why change it? its like you had something there which was perfectly good what's so hard about putting it back? thats the other reason youshould do it. People want you to do something to change it, and help people stay and eventually make a more popular game. If you start cooperating and doing these things people will be more enthusiatic about the game. And it is the Enthusiasm that will make other people stay. The Players will make them stay, it all makes a difference and rubs off mate.

Listen to them, and do it.


There is a reason this game is the way it is in my opinion, and it is your lack of enthusiasm.
Titan wrote:Not the best strategy to refuse basical things like singleplayer to get more players. But its your game.


basical
The Great Yacoob wrote:Mikkel u have my full support i will sign on and bring as much entertainment as i can muster like the old days. Hang in there. Try making a video of online boxing and posting it on youtube like the guys said. It's good advertisement. Put in some screen shots of the ranking system, the forum board, the title belts and stuff. Remember i said Mikkel FINISH THE GAME! Bring back all the title belts, give us all the rooms back so that when people DO come back you are already for action.



Listen to those words, and to add to that, Switch the Presentation of the front page to back to how it used to be so you can more clearly see the ranking have a play with it.. and add that link to the facebook group to the front page also, and bringing back singleplayer would also be an aim in the long term. Have patience my friend, stay on top of it and the numbers of people joining this game will increase slowly.
Give it time mate, your eager cos uve fixed it..

Trust me, people Will notice and they will come online more and stay online. It needs to stay that way for them to come online and then stay online but the numbers will build.
and also hardly anyone's been coming online when it wasn't working what you on about lol
I'm not being argumentative or anything - Maxie did actually give a bit of an explanation up top and posted a link to a thread which had more info.. but u shouldn't rely on ppl to go back to it and read it Maxie. just repeat urself. Don't kno what the problem is or how to help u, ive never had that problem before.
I would like to say a few things in response to The Rockets post.

Firstly I agree with it whole heartedly. This is something I think alot agree with and have expressed for quite a while. I have even suggested those exact same ideas, Mikkel he is right. I even agree about the ob3d thing. I just wanna say a couple words about that too - OB3d was a great idea. I can't say I haven't wanted to do exactly what Mikkel has been trying to do with it / ob3d. The want to make ob3d as realistic / or a 3d boxing game which is just more realistic etc is a dream / great idea but I just think that it MIGHT be biting off more then u can chew, and a bit too complicated. I would love it but I just think it's a little bit too much to ask for. I personally would leave 3D to the EA / pro game developers etc even tho they are gay... there's a reason why they havent got it right! lol. But I gotta take my hat off to Mikkel for trying it and trying to supply us with it. Again, I gotta say, the Uniqueness and realistic aspect is something that Ob2d has.

Onto my Second point which is this, from what I understand, regarding the 'improvements' to ob2d that you have mentioned Rocket, Mikkel would be willing to do all that as long as there were more people coming to the game. This may seem a catch 22 situation as doing the improvements would help KEEP those people in the game, but nonetheless we should both make efforts to do both things. Which is why I am going to Direct you to the ADVERTISING OB Thread which has many answers and views, Where you can find 2 Ideas which can help Promote OB Our much loved Game. The first is an idea by Me half way down the thread about making comments on YouTube is very effective and is completely straight forward And Self Explanatory. The other is an Idea by Fatny (a very good 1) about sharing the OB link / game on Facebook.

I would also like to say it's good to see Black Bear back and you too Rocket.
Yer lol, I know he has Headless Hunter a.k.a BA Baracus the guy who calls himself a scientist and says he plays this in his lab. Anyone who knows me knows I try to help OB. I get plenty of messages from ppl who actually try to help and have ideas. You have to be the most useless that I've come across. All you do is waste your time and try to get under peoples skin. Especially mine. I don't kno if it's jealousy or if you just have a silent crush on me.. . Why dont you do something constructive to try to help OB, and contribute to this thread in the right manner and under the right topic. Instead of making urself out to be some sort of waste of time Bumlicking loser.
O now my idea is good enoughnow is it you muther fucker? FUck you.

I dont even accept that,

You lot clearly know NOthing about this. Youre an absolute muppet Mikkel I could get people coming to this website in about 10 seconds if i wanted.

Ive tryed an tryed with u and to help ob and i get nothing from you. You literally slap me in the face call my idea shit and even accuse me of doing what all the others on this game are doing and Talking about doing something and doing nothing. Like you!.
Lets face it nobody has ever done anything to help it, and I have. Im the first.
10 years have passed and nothing has happened, great, get over it.
You clearly dont understand how to get people to the game.
It is a DIFFERENT game then others.
Stop comparing it to them.
This is one of the ONLY games i have come across that is playable on the browser in an open window.
ok? it is DIFFERENT to other games, so get over that and stop comparing it to them.

my idea will get u banned? o please mate. Look at the context in which ur talking.
You're talking about the INTERNET nowadays, where people dont care about spamming on youtube.
how many ppl talk shit on youtube and dont care?
i mean seriously, im not condoning what im telling you to do, spammin is generally frowned upon,
but compared to what others do on youtube and what they say? seriously mate sort it out.
Mentioning the site a few times in the comments section, who cares.
yer ur account may be banned for advertising? maybe not?
who gives a shit look at what fatny wrote. you love stickin ur nose up his bum so much..
fuck me mate u need to grow up. My idea would work its simple as that, it would get ppl to the website.
it would get OB noticed.
if u wanna sustain that u gotta think of other ways.
But if the people who play this game just want a few more opponents and a slightly bigger community then just 5/6 players, then thats what they can/need to do.
and all it would take is like 3 or 4 videos to put the website in the comments section on.. Oh no!.


ive successfully got more people to this game in the past, during the time when the 'gyms' were active For your information (which I introduced as well!) so I know what im talking about.
I know EXACTLY how to get people to this game. All i have done is supplied other people with the ability to do it As well.
and also FYI the numbers was around 10-20 active people on this game, Every night, when i had made efforts to promote ob
yer cheers redneck mate i appreciate that. Ive actually tried to help it and literally given good ideas to make people come to it. He literally puts it down and yesterday actually accused my idea of being shit and saying that all ive ever done was talk about advertising and never actually done anything...

when i have, and he says yer uve talked..

he's the fucking creator the guy that stands for the game he is the person that represents it and does nothing? sits there and says yer thats a good idea maybe... and umm lets see what happens.... Nothing...

i am so sick of him. and now when i try and tell others about it he deletes the post? what a sad tosser...

you are one pussyhole prick mikkel why dont u just delete the game as a whole instead of ppl's messages what a sad dickhead.

as i said before im done with him and the game as a whole.

stoppin ppl from tryin to express the opinions on here.

do you really want another spam infestation on ur forum?
Titan wrote:
Mikkel wrote:Facebook add might be a good idea..


Of course its a good idea. But nice how you ignore Fierce' Posting...his idea is not bad either and its for free (not half as good as the facebook-ad..but still good).



Thanks Titan I appreciate that, and thanks Fatny too; I will look into that and those type of videos and check them out. Didn't think it was that much better an idea titan! but your right the facebook idea is a better one etc. The two ideas are different in that the Facebook idea is a Serious one that Mikkel could consider and should consider if he really wants to do something about the game. It also costs money as you said which is a big difference. My one is an option merely for us players to do something to help towards getting people to OB, and is easy, ive pretty much just written it out anyway.

The other thing is Fatny, I was kinda trying to aim at getting the maximum views to the website. Videos for boxing games will not get that many views and it will take time for them to increase. Other type of videos about boxing for example, some get hundreds of thousands of views in a few months... Your right about it being spam and possibly being taken down though.. :/ .. think we have the same attitude? .. every little helps? lol
 
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