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true but with the standards that Red put out anybody can get in HOF, becoming superchamp makes it more challenging

John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53


OB Style: "The John Style"

OB Status: Active

OB Member Since: May 2007

OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock

OB Class: Hall of Fame

All-Time Winning Streak: 198

1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29

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"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon

"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny
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it needs to be 50xChamp....
100 defenses.
Long time playing (vet)

and something else i cant think of right now lol.

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42xOB Champ
5xNA
11xSA
7xOBW
2xOBA
2xEuro
7xOBF
2xOBC
4xTourney
P4P


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Red Viper wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:The HOFers that are around today as well as Mikkel are the only ones that can cast a vote. It's always been that way and it should stay that way to prevent the HOF from becoming a joke.

There are a lot of very good players today that just need to become extremely consistent in order to one day become HOF. We can't just nominate popular players or players that have been here for years.

For the one millionth time, if someone is truly worthy of HOF consideration, they won't have to constantly inquire about it. They'll just know because they'll be sitting at the top holding all the titles beating just about everyone. Further, an old school HOFer like me will eventually take notice and push for their induction.

The only players that have been close to getting my vote are Fernando Vargas, Black Bear, and Nigel Benn. However, they didn't stick around long enough and let their primes slip away. Now if they come back and kick some hardcore ass, I won't have an issue casting them my vote.


I highly disagree with all of this bullshit you just said. I personally think your way of electing people into the HOF is corrupted a way to elect people. You think people like me, sugarray, Tyrant and others being in the HOF is a joke to you. This has nothing to do of me being popular and being around for years shit. I have proven skills and I am very close to be worthy induction to the HOF, but your crappy way is ruining chances for me and other people.

Why you think Vargas, Benn and Black Bear considered to be hall of famers. The only person should be considered HOF material out of three youve just listed is Black Bear. Vargas hides behind alts, what a joke. About Nigel Benn, I am better than he is and that is a fact. Black Bear is not coming back anytime soon. Vargas will hide in an alt and Nigel Benn is washed up.

Your personal vandetta against me will continue because you will keep calling me overrated, a joke, has been, washed up, garbage, a bragger and other bullshit. You may be more skilled than me but I am not going to put up with your load of crap and keep putting me down like some street punk you think I am

I think the better way to elect people to the HOF for the following rules.

1. Have 30 titles or more

2. Have over 100 title defenses or more

3. Have an 70% winning percentage or above

4. Beat the very best fighters for titles.

5. Have the majority vote by everyone in the game, not JUST the HOF'ers themselves.

I think that is a better way, your way is retarded. Doesn't matter how good I become, you will never consider me to the HOF because your a punk, plain and simple.

Heres what I think who should go into the HOF. The other people I would consider are Tyrant, sugarray Black Bear and me
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56 time Onlineboxing Champion
118 title defences
19- OBC
14- OBW
10- OBA
4- SA
6- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
Future HOF
The Yacoob Killer
OB Name- Red Viper


So I'm washed up?, you are better than me?, let's get a few things straight. Granted I'm not anywhere near the level I was a couple of years ago where I was consistently winning against proper elite fighters and HOFers unlike the bums you consistenly lose to today, but how should me not being as sharpe I was back then have any bearing on being considered as HOF material?. With your logic if Holmes came back and lost 100 times in a row his HOF status should be stripped. Don't forget HOF status is based on prime not when people zone in and out of the game every month of so.

Your arrogance and self importance and how serious you take this game always gives me a laugh, you think you should be in the HOF, and constantly demand for respect, but you most definately shouldn't be. You lose all the big fights and bully weak opposition, the people who think you are HOF material are bums you whack out for fun and beating them badly impresses them. You have played this game without a break for years yet you STILL cannot dominate when all the vets and HOFers have vanished, people who are new to the game have come in and blown you away.

I notice you included Sugar and not me...we had great wars and I think our head to head has a reading of like 60 wins each.

I'm not on the level I was 2 years ago, but I know for a fact I could still whip your ass, because you are one dimentional and easy to hit which means you will never move on from your current level. See you in the ring.

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30 TIME OBW CHAMPION
19 TIME OBC CHAMPION
31 TIME OBA CHAMPION
47 TIME OBF CHAMPION
8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
1 TIME SUPERCHAMP & UNDISPUTED CHAMPION

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"Dark Destroyer" Nigel Benn





Skillz

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Dark Destroyer wrote:
Red Viper wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:The HOFers that are around today as well as Mikkel are the only ones that can cast a vote. It's always been that way and it should stay that way to prevent the HOF from becoming a joke.

There are a lot of very good players today that just need to become extremely consistent in order to one day become HOF. We can't just nominate popular players or players that have been here for years.

For the one millionth time, if someone is truly worthy of HOF consideration, they won't have to constantly inquire about it. They'll just know because they'll be sitting at the top holding all the titles beating just about everyone. Further, an old school HOFer like me will eventually take notice and push for their induction.

The only players that have been close to getting my vote are Fernando Vargas, Black Bear, and Nigel Benn. However, they didn't stick around long enough and let their primes slip away. Now if they come back and kick some hardcore ass, I won't have an issue casting them my vote.


I highly disagree with all of this bullshit you just said. I personally think your way of electing people into the HOF is corrupted a way to elect people. You think people like me, sugarray, Tyrant and others being in the HOF is a joke to you. This has nothing to do of me being popular and being around for years shit. I have proven skills and I am very close to be worthy induction to the HOF, but your crappy way is ruining chances for me and other people.

Why you think Vargas, Benn and Black Bear considered to be hall of famers. The only person should be considered HOF material out of three youve just listed is Black Bear. Vargas hides behind alts, what a joke. About Nigel Benn, I am better than he is and that is a fact. Black Bear is not coming back anytime soon. Vargas will hide in an alt and Nigel Benn is washed up.

Your personal vandetta against me will continue because you will keep calling me overrated, a joke, has been, washed up, garbage, a bragger and other bullshit. You may be more skilled than me but I am not going to put up with your load of crap and keep putting me down like some street punk you think I am

I think the better way to elect people to the HOF for the following rules.

1. Have 30 titles or more

2. Have over 100 title defenses or more

3. Have an 70% winning percentage or above

4. Beat the very best fighters for titles.

5. Have the majority vote by everyone in the game, not JUST the HOF'ers themselves.

I think that is a better way, your way is retarded. Doesn't matter how good I become, you will never consider me to the HOF because your a punk, plain and simple.

Heres what I think who should go into the HOF. The other people I would consider are Tyrant, sugarray Black Bear and me
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56 time Onlineboxing Champion
118 title defences
19- OBC
14- OBW
10- OBA
4- SA
6- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
Future HOF
The Yacoob Killer
OB Name- Red Viper


So I'm washed up?, you are better than me?, let's get a few things straight. Granted I'm not anywhere near the level I was a couple of years ago where I was consistently winning against proper elite fighters and HOFers unlike the bums you consistenly lose to today, but how should me not being as sharpe I was back then have any bearing on being considered as HOF material?. With your logic if Holmes came back and lost 100 times in a row his HOF status should be stripped. Don't forget HOF status is based on prime not when people zone in and out of the game every month of so.

Your arrogance and self importance and how serious you take this game always gives me a laugh, you think you should be in the HOF, and constantly demand for respect, but you most definately shouldn't be. You lose all the big fights and bully weak opposition, the people who think you are HOF material are bums you whack out for fun and beating them badly impresses them. You have played this game without a break for years yet you STILL cannot dominate when all the vets and HOFers have vanished, people who are new to the game have come in and blown you away.

I notice you included Sugar and not me...we had great wars and I think our head to head has a reading of like 60 wins each.

I'm not on the level I was 2 years ago, but I know for a fact I could still whip your ass, because you are one dimentional and easy to hit which means you will never move on from your current level. See you in the ring.

Eww. That hurts well said haha.
This will be fun to watch

Title History
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42xOB Champ
5xNA
11xSA
7xOBW
2xOBA
2xEuro
7xOBF
2xOBC
4xTourney
P4P


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Dark Destroyer wrote:
Red Viper wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:The HOFers that are around today as well as Mikkel are the only ones that can cast a vote. It's always been that way and it should stay that way to prevent the HOF from becoming a joke.

There are a lot of very good players today that just need to become extremely consistent in order to one day become HOF. We can't just nominate popular players or players that have been here for years.

For the one millionth time, if someone is truly worthy of HOF consideration, they won't have to constantly inquire about it. They'll just know because they'll be sitting at the top holding all the titles beating just about everyone. Further, an old school HOFer like me will eventually take notice and push for their induction.

The only players that have been close to getting my vote are Fernando Vargas, Black Bear, and Nigel Benn. However, they didn't stick around long enough and let their primes slip away. Now if they come back and kick some hardcore ass, I won't have an issue casting them my vote.


I highly disagree with all of this bullshit you just said. I personally think your way of electing people into the HOF is corrupted a way to elect people. You think people like me, sugarray, Tyrant and others being in the HOF is a joke to you. This has nothing to do of me being popular and being around for years shit. I have proven skills and I am very close to be worthy induction to the HOF, but your crappy way is ruining chances for me and other people.

Why you think Vargas, Benn and Black Bear considered to be hall of famers. The only person should be considered HOF material out of three youve just listed is Black Bear. Vargas hides behind alts, what a joke. About Nigel Benn, I am better than he is and that is a fact. Black Bear is not coming back anytime soon. Vargas will hide in an alt and Nigel Benn is washed up.

Your personal vandetta against me will continue because you will keep calling me overrated, a joke, has been, washed up, garbage, a bragger and other bullshit. You may be more skilled than me but I am not going to put up with your load of crap and keep putting me down like some street punk you think I am

I think the better way to elect people to the HOF for the following rules.

1. Have 30 titles or more

2. Have over 100 title defenses or more

3. Have an 70% winning percentage or above

4. Beat the very best fighters for titles.

5. Have the majority vote by everyone in the game, not JUST the HOF'ers themselves.

I think that is a better way, your way is retarded. Doesn't matter how good I become, you will never consider me to the HOF because your a punk, plain and simple.

Heres what I think who should go into the HOF. The other people I would consider are Tyrant, sugarray Black Bear and me
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So I'm washed up?, you are better than me?, let's get a few things straight. Granted I'm not anywhere near the level I was a couple of years ago where I was consistently winning against proper elite fighters and HOFers unlike the bums you consistenly lose to today, but how should me not being as sharpe I was back then have any bearing on being considered as HOF material?. With your logic if Holmes came back and lost 100 times in a row his HOF status should be stripped. Don't forget HOF status is based on prime not when people zone in and out of the game every month of so.

Your arrogance and self importance and how serious you take this game always gives me a laugh, you think you should be in the HOF, and constantly demand for respect, but you most definately shouldn't be. You lose all the big fights and bully weak opposition, the people who think you are HOF material are bums you whack out for fun and beating them badly impresses them. You have played this game without a break for years yet you STILL cannot dominate when all the vets and HOFers have vanished, people who are new to the game have come in and blown you away.

I notice you included Sugar and not me...we had great wars and I think our head to head has a reading of like 60 wins each.

I'm not on the level I was 2 years ago, but I know for a fact I could still whip your ass, because you are one dimentional and easy to hit which means you will never move on from your current level. See you in the ring.


Read this Nigel. Um whats the point here????? Did you ever dominate, hell no. You never dominated either. You think all of what I have said is toward you, no. Most of the previous post was about Sal, not you. I am not the one who made this thread, but I am allowed to make my own opinion, if you don't like it, then don't cry about it simple, you have no idea of what I have been doing also. Skillz didn't include you also so STFU. I did not beat bums for titles, I beat good fighters and won six titles for the past two or three days. I only lost four of them and two of them I got screwed because of freezes. Who gives a shit about domination none of this drivil of what you said make any sense. I haven't had a break huh, actually I did take breaks during the school week, moron.

You seriously think I bully weak oppositiion, NO. I fight anyone that challenges me. I heard that you called John a "sore loser", when he took your OBF title, am I right dickhead. You also told John was "that no one should go in the HOF unless I get In" Now thats arrogance. You think John is a bum, no hes not. You think everyone I lose to are bums, no there not. I lose mostly to better fighters and alts. You can whup my ass huh? Pfff, you didn't do that, the last time I fought you I beaten you the last three out of the four times. During that night, I took your OBF title as well.

Yeah I am easy to hit but that does not mean I am an easy oppenent to beat. Did I ever say about my logic if Larry losses 100 times and his HOF resume gets stripped, hell no. Read your facts straight before you say stupid crap. You seriously think most of my previous towards you, no it wasn't, it was towards Sal. As of right now, I beat you a lot more times than you did against me. I may be cocky but I am correct most of the time. You think your not arrogant, huh you are. I might prove you wrong again. Everyone loses to everyone, its how it is, if you don't think that then your a dumbass plain and simple. Yeah I will see you in the ring, but when? You never show up the same time I am on. Just keep on blabbing stupid retarded crap about me that is not true. Actually trash talking makes this game a lot more fun. I am usually online during the afternoon from usually 2-7 pm Eastern U.S. time. Lets see who has the better pride in the ring. No excuses and crybaby bullshit, deal.
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118 title defences
19- OBC
14- OBW
10- OBA
4- SA
6- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
Future HOF
The Yacoob Killer
OB Name- Red Viper

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Red Viper wrote:
Dark Destroyer wrote:
Red Viper wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:The HOFers that are around today as well as Mikkel are the only ones that can cast a vote. It's always been that way and it should stay that way to prevent the HOF from becoming a joke.

There are a lot of very good players today that just need to become extremely consistent in order to one day become HOF. We can't just nominate popular players or players that have been here for years.

For the one millionth time, if someone is truly worthy of HOF consideration, they won't have to constantly inquire about it. They'll just know because they'll be sitting at the top holding all the titles beating just about everyone. Further, an old school HOFer like me will eventually take notice and push for their induction.

The only players that have been close to getting my vote are Fernando Vargas, Black Bear, and Nigel Benn. However, they didn't stick around long enough and let their primes slip away. Now if they come back and kick some hardcore ass, I won't have an issue casting them my vote.


I highly disagree with all of this bullshit you just said. I personally think your way of electing people into the HOF is corrupted a way to elect people. You think people like me, sugarray, Tyrant and others being in the HOF is a joke to you. This has nothing to do of me being popular and being around for years shit. I have proven skills and I am very close to be worthy induction to the HOF, but your crappy way is ruining chances for me and other people.

Why you think Vargas, Benn and Black Bear considered to be hall of famers. The only person should be considered HOF material out of three youve just listed is Black Bear. Vargas hides behind alts, what a joke. About Nigel Benn, I am better than he is and that is a fact. Black Bear is not coming back anytime soon. Vargas will hide in an alt and Nigel Benn is washed up.

Your personal vandetta against me will continue because you will keep calling me overrated, a joke, has been, washed up, garbage, a bragger and other bullshit. You may be more skilled than me but I am not going to put up with your load of crap and keep putting me down like some street punk you think I am

I think the better way to elect people to the HOF for the following rules.

1. Have 30 titles or more

2. Have over 100 title defenses or more

3. Have an 70% winning percentage or above

4. Beat the very best fighters for titles.

5. Have the majority vote by everyone in the game, not JUST the HOF'ers themselves.

I think that is a better way, your way is retarded. Doesn't matter how good I become, you will never consider me to the HOF because your a punk, plain and simple.

Heres what I think who should go into the HOF. The other people I would consider are Tyrant, sugarray Black Bear and me
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


So I'm washed up?, you are better than me?, let's get a few things straight. Granted I'm not anywhere near the level I was a couple of years ago where I was consistently winning against proper elite fighters and HOFers unlike the bums you consistenly lose to today, but how should me not being as sharpe I was back then have any bearing on being considered as HOF material?. With your logic if Holmes came back and lost 100 times in a row his HOF status should be stripped. Don't forget HOF status is based on prime not when people zone in and out of the game every month of so.

Your arrogance and self importance and how serious you take this game always gives me a laugh, you think you should be in the HOF, and constantly demand for respect, but you most definately shouldn't be. You lose all the big fights and bully weak opposition, the people who think you are HOF material are bums you whack out for fun and beating them badly impresses them. You have played this game without a break for years yet you STILL cannot dominate when all the vets and HOFers have vanished, people who are new to the game have come in and blown you away.

I notice you included Sugar and not me...we had great wars and I think our head to head has a reading of like 60 wins each.

I'm not on the level I was 2 years ago, but I know for a fact I could still whip your ass, because you are one dimentional and easy to hit which means you will never move on from your current level. See you in the ring.


Read this Nigel. Um whats the point here????? Did you ever dominate, hell no. You never dominated either. You think all of what I have said is toward you, no. Most of the previous post was about Sal, not you. I am not the one who made this thread, but I am allowed to make my own opinion, if you don't like it, then don't cry about it simple, you have no idea of what I have been doing also. Skillz didn't include you also so STFU. I did not beat bums for titles, I beat good fighters and won six titles for the past two or three days. I only lost four of them and two of them I got screwed because of freezes. Who gives a shit about domination none of this drivil of what you said make any sense. I haven't had a break huh, actually I did take breaks during the school week, moron.

You seriously think I bully weak oppositiion, NO. I fight anyone that challenges me. I heard that you called John a "sore loser", when he took your OBF title, am I right dickhead. You also told John was "that no one should go in the HOF unless I get In" Now thats arrogance. You think John is a bum, no hes not. You think everyone I lose to are bums, no there not. I lose mostly to better fighters and alts. You can whup my ass huh? Pfff, you didn't do that, the last time I fought you I beaten you the last three out of the four times. During that night, I took your OBF title as well.

Yeah I am easy to hit but that does not mean I am an easy oppenent to beat. Did I ever say about my logic if Larry losses 100 times and his HOF resume gets stripped, hell no. Read your facts straight before you say stupid crap. You seriously think most of my last towards you, no it wasn't, it was towards Sal. As of right now, I beat you a lot more times than you did against me. I may be cocky but I am correct most of the time. You think your not arrogant, huh you are. I might prove you wrong again. Everyone loses everyone, its how it is, if you don't think that then your a dumbass plain and simple. Yeah I will see you in the ring, but when? I am usually on during the afternoon eastern U.S. Time. You never show up the same time I am on. Just keep on blabbing stupid retarded crap about me that is not true, retard. I am on right now, if you don't have the balls right now, we should do this some other time. Actually trash talking makes this game a lot more fun.
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56 time Onlineboxing Champion
118 title defences
19- OBC
14- OBW
10- OBA
4- SA
6- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
Future HOF
The Yacoob Killer
OB Name- Red Viper


Wow, Viper treating this game like it's life or death again, getting all worked up over a post.

Ok let's get some facts straight:

1) Not even for one second and I can swear on my own life did I say "No one gets in unless I do", I have said it a million times and I'll say it again, I don't deserve to be in it, there are atleast 4 people that should be in before anyone else is even considered.

2) John being a little bitch and bitching behind my back, lieing, while being respectful in game telling you what happened and you take one side and then use it here when you wasn't even there. He was a bad loser, he beat me twice in extreme lag and was very gracious in victory, the next day, when my connection was even better, I beat him twice, then he bleated on and on about my lag, if that's not a bad loser what is?.

3) I knew you'd use the early 2008 victories as an argument, I was inactive for like 8 months, was very rusty, go back t0 2006, my prime when I whopped you for fun.

4) I was unlucky with dominating as I was the best there was in 06, had 2 titles, massive streaks, I just happened to have one guy stopping me...Fatny.

5) Bottom line is you are not HOF material, I have more titles, more defences, less losses, better wins in my prime, all that points to the fact if you get in when like me and many others are so much better then there is something wrong.

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30 TIME OBW CHAMPION
19 TIME OBC CHAMPION
31 TIME OBA CHAMPION
47 TIME OBF CHAMPION
8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
1 TIME SUPERCHAMP & UNDISPUTED CHAMPION

DEFENCES: 373


"Dark Destroyer" Nigel Benn





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Dark Destroyer wrote:
Red Viper wrote:
Dark Destroyer wrote:
Red Viper wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:The HOFers that are around today as well as Mikkel are the only ones that can cast a vote. It's always been that way and it should stay that way to prevent the HOF from becoming a joke.

There are a lot of very good players today that just need to become extremely consistent in order to one day become HOF. We can't just nominate popular players or players that have been here for years.

For the one millionth time, if someone is truly worthy of HOF consideration, they won't have to constantly inquire about it. They'll just know because they'll be sitting at the top holding all the titles beating just about everyone. Further, an old school HOFer like me will eventually take notice and push for their induction.

The only players that have been close to getting my vote are Fernando Vargas, Black Bear, and Nigel Benn. However, they didn't stick around long enough and let their primes slip away. Now if they come back and kick some hardcore ass, I won't have an issue casting them my vote.


I highly disagree with all of this bullshit you just said. I personally think your way of electing people into the HOF is corrupted a way to elect people. You think people like me, sugarray, Tyrant and others being in the HOF is a joke to you. This has nothing to do of me being popular and being around for years shit. I have proven skills and I am very close to be worthy induction to the HOF, but your crappy way is ruining chances for me and other people.

Why you think Vargas, Benn and Black Bear considered to be hall of famers. The only person should be considered HOF material out of three youve just listed is Black Bear. Vargas hides behind alts, what a joke. About Nigel Benn, I am better than he is and that is a fact. Black Bear is not coming back anytime soon. Vargas will hide in an alt and Nigel Benn is washed up.

Your personal vandetta against me will continue because you will keep calling me overrated, a joke, has been, washed up, garbage, a bragger and other bullshit. You may be more skilled than me but I am not going to put up with your load of crap and keep putting me down like some street punk you think I am

I think the better way to elect people to the HOF for the following rules.

1. Have 30 titles or more

2. Have over 100 title defenses or more

3. Have an 70% winning percentage or above

4. Beat the very best fighters for titles.

5. Have the majority vote by everyone in the game, not JUST the HOF'ers themselves.

I think that is a better way, your way is retarded. Doesn't matter how good I become, you will never consider me to the HOF because your a punk, plain and simple.

Heres what I think who should go into the HOF. The other people I would consider are Tyrant, sugarray Black Bear and me
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So I'm washed up?, you are better than me?, let's get a few things straight. Granted I'm not anywhere near the level I was a couple of years ago where I was consistently winning against proper elite fighters and HOFers unlike the bums you consistenly lose to today, but how should me not being as sharpe I was back then have any bearing on being considered as HOF material?. With your logic if Holmes came back and lost 100 times in a row his HOF status should be stripped. Don't forget HOF status is based on prime not when people zone in and out of the game every month of so.

Your arrogance and self importance and how serious you take this game always gives me a laugh, you think you should be in the HOF, and constantly demand for respect, but you most definately shouldn't be. You lose all the big fights and bully weak opposition, the people who think you are HOF material are bums you whack out for fun and beating them badly impresses them. You have played this game without a break for years yet you STILL cannot dominate when all the vets and HOFers have vanished, people who are new to the game have come in and blown you away.

I notice you included Sugar and not me...we had great wars and I think our head to head has a reading of like 60 wins each.

I'm not on the level I was 2 years ago, but I know for a fact I could still whip your ass, because you are one dimentional and easy to hit which means you will never move on from your current level. See you in the ring.


Read this Nigel. Um whats the point here????? Did you ever dominate, hell no. You never dominated either. You think all of what I have said is toward you, no. Most of the previous post was about Sal, not you. I am not the one who made this thread, but I am allowed to make my own opinion, if you don't like it, then don't cry about it simple, you have no idea of what I have been doing also. Skillz didn't include you also so STFU. I did not beat bums for titles, I beat good fighters and won six titles for the past two or three days. I only lost four of them and two of them I got screwed because of freezes. Who gives a shit about domination none of this drivil of what you said make any sense. I haven't had a break huh, actually I did take breaks during the school week, moron.

You seriously think I bully weak oppositiion, NO. I fight anyone that challenges me. I heard that you called John a "sore loser", when he took your OBF title, am I right dickhead. You also told John was "that no one should go in the HOF unless I get In" Now thats arrogance. You think John is a bum, no hes not. You think everyone I lose to are bums, no there not. I lose mostly to better fighters and alts. You can whup my ass huh? Pfff, you didn't do that, the last time I fought you I beaten you the last three out of the four times. During that night, I took your OBF title as well.

Yeah I am easy to hit but that does not mean I am an easy oppenent to beat. Did I ever say about my logic if Larry losses 100 times and his HOF resume gets stripped, hell no. Read your facts straight before you say stupid crap. You seriously think most of my last towards you, no it wasn't, it was towards Sal. As of right now, I beat you a lot more times than you did against me. I may be cocky but I am correct most of the time. You think your not arrogant, huh you are. I might prove you wrong again. Everyone loses everyone, its how it is, if you don't think that then your a dumbass plain and simple. Yeah I will see you in the ring, but when? I am usually on during the afternoon eastern U.S. Time. You never show up the same time I am on. Just keep on blabbing stupid retarded crap about me that is not true, retard. I am on right now, if you don't have the balls right now, we should do this some other time. Actually trash talking makes this game a lot more fun.
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10- OBA
4- SA
6- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
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Greatest Slugger in OB History
Future HOF
The Yacoob Killer
OB Name- Red Viper


Wow, Viper treating this game like it's life or death again, getting all worked up over a post.

Ok let's get some facts straight:

1) Not even for one second and I can swear on my own life did I say "No one gets in unless I do", I have said it a million times and I'll say it again, I don't deserve to be in it, there are atleast 4 people that should be in before anyone else is even considered.

2) John being a little bitch and bitching behind my back, lieing, while being respectful in game telling you what happened and you take one side and then use it here when you wasn't even there. He was a bad loser, he beat me twice in extreme lag and was very gracious in victory, the next day, when my connection was even better, I beat him twice, then he bleated on and on about my lag, if that's not a bad loser what is?.

3) I knew you'd use the early 2008 victories as an argument, I was inactive for like 8 months, was very rusty, go back t0 2006, my prime when I whopped you for fun.

4) I was unlucky with dominating as I was the best there was in 06, had 2 titles, massive streaks, I just happened to have one guy stopping me...Fatny.

5) Bottom line is you are not HOF material, I have more titles, more defences, less losses, better wins in my prime, all that points to the fact if you get in when like me and many others are so much better then there is something wrong.


Reason why, I used those quotes because he told me, thats how i knew. Yeah you do have more titles and defences but not by much. Reason why I have more losses because I have more fights than you do, and won over 6600 fights and loss over 2500 fights. I have over a 4000 win differential. With Sal's way, I am not going to be in the HOF anyway. So it doesn't matter. Many people have a different opinion than you, but oh well. I am not easy as people think either. Just watch, I will be HOF material by sometime this year, and I'll probably prove you wrong, but who knows. Your not "washed-up" but I've gotten a lot better, if you haven't noticed yet. By the way many people are NOT better than me, just some people, but not a lot.

I'll face you in the ring but give me the designated place and the time. I am usually on from 2-7 PM Eastern U.S. Time. If you can't make that time, tell me another. Lets see who has the better pride in the ring. Do you want to do this the best out of three or the best out of five.
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6- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
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Greatest Slugger in OB History
Future HOF
The Yacoob Killer
OB Name- Red Viper



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EXPERIENCE = Throwing body jabs since 2003
STATUS = Officially Retired (2014)
TOUGHEST OPPOSITION: Larry Holmes, Sugarray, Here To Fight, Salvador-Sanchez/El Terrible Morales, Labratory, Mike Tyson, M.A.Barrera
FAVORITE OPPONENT: Sugarray
LOCATION = U.S.
FIGHTINGSTYLE = Defensive Counter Puncher
SIGNATURE PUNCH = Long Body Jab
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nigel our first 2 matches did not lag at all. when i lost the title to you those matches skipped every 5 seconds and i consider that unfair to me and anyone else that fights in ur bs lag

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JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53


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OB Member Since: May 2007

OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock

OB Class: Hall of Fame

All-Time Winning Streak: 198

1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
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23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29

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"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon

"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny
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johnbludger wrote:nigel our first 2 matches did not lag at all. when i lost the title to you those matches skipped every 5 seconds and i consider that unfair to me and anyone else that fights in ur bs lag


I always lag what on earth are you going on about?. You fight Boon but that's acceptable?, and it was acceptable when you beat me, your a bullshitter.

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19 TIME OBC CHAMPION
31 TIME OBA CHAMPION
47 TIME OBF CHAMPION
8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
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Skillz wrote:Nigel...u at work still?


Yeah, will be back in about 3 hours.

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8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
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Dark Destroyer wrote:
Red Viper wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:The HOFers that are around today as well as Mikkel are the only ones that can cast a vote. It's always been that way and it should stay that way to prevent the HOF from becoming a joke.

There are a lot of very good players today that just need to become extremely consistent in order to one day become HOF. We can't just nominate popular players or players that have been here for years.

For the one millionth time, if someone is truly worthy of HOF consideration, they won't have to constantly inquire about it. They'll just know because they'll be sitting at the top holding all the titles beating just about everyone. Further, an old school HOFer like me will eventually take notice and push for their induction.

The only players that have been close to getting my vote are Fernando Vargas, Black Bear, and Nigel Benn. However, they didn't stick around long enough and let their primes slip away. Now if they come back and kick some hardcore ass, I won't have an issue casting them my vote.


I highly disagree with all of this bullshit you just said. I personally think your way of electing people into the HOF is corrupted a way to elect people. You think people like me, sugarray, Tyrant and others being in the HOF is a joke to you. This has nothing to do of me being popular and being around for years shit. I have proven skills and I am very close to be worthy induction to the HOF, but your crappy way is ruining chances for me and other people.

Why you think Vargas, Benn and Black Bear considered to be hall of famers. The only person should be considered HOF material out of three youve just listed is Black Bear. Vargas hides behind alts, what a joke. About Nigel Benn, I am better than he is and that is a fact. Black Bear is not coming back anytime soon. Vargas will hide in an alt and Nigel Benn is washed up.

Your personal vandetta against me will continue because you will keep calling me overrated, a joke, has been, washed up, garbage, a bragger and other bullshit. You may be more skilled than me but I am not going to put up with your load of crap and keep putting me down like some street punk you think I am

I think the better way to elect people to the HOF for the following rules.

1. Have 30 titles or more

2. Have over 100 title defenses or more

3. Have an 70% winning percentage or above

4. Beat the very best fighters for titles.

5. Have the majority vote by everyone in the game, not JUST the HOF'ers themselves.

I think that is a better way, your way is retarded. Doesn't matter how good I become, you will never consider me to the HOF because your a punk, plain and simple.

Heres what I think who should go into the HOF. The other people I would consider are Tyrant, sugarray Black Bear and me
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56 time Onlineboxing Champion
118 title defences
19- OBC
14- OBW
10- OBA
4- SA
6- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
Future HOF
The Yacoob Killer
OB Name- Red Viper


So I'm washed up?, you are better than me?, let's get a few things straight. Granted I'm not anywhere near the level I was a couple of years ago where I was consistently winning against proper elite fighters and HOFers unlike the bums you consistenly lose to today, but how should me not being as sharpe I was back then have any bearing on being considered as HOF material?. With your logic if Holmes came back and lost 100 times in a row his HOF status should be stripped. Don't forget HOF status is based on prime not when people zone in and out of the game every month of so.

Your arrogance and self importance and how serious you take this game always gives me a laugh, you think you should be in the HOF, and constantly demand for respect, but you most definately shouldn't be. You lose all the big fights and bully weak opposition, the people who think you are HOF material are bums you whack out for fun and beating them badly impresses them. You have played this game without a break for years yet you STILL cannot dominate when all the vets and HOFers have vanished, people who are new to the game have come in and blown you away.

I notice you included Sugar and not me...we had great wars and I think our head to head has a reading of like 60 wins each.

I'm not on the level I was 2 years ago, but I know for a fact I could still whip your ass, because you are one dimentional and easy to hit which means you will never move on from your current level. See you in the ring.


That was very harsh but well said, Nigel.

Red takes this game way too seriously and he truly believes he's HOF material because he has those he bullies in his back pocket. However, the truth is that he is a one-dimensional fighter that would lose to every "prime" HOFer. I could seriously take years off and dominate him 20 times in a row. Wait a minute. Been there, done that.

The core reasons I don't believe he's a HOFer are:

A. I believe that out of the 500 times we've fought, he's probably only beaten me once or twice by fluke KO. A future HOFer should at least give me some problems consistently. Red has never done this. I honestly believe an active Reaper and X-Treme Skillz have more talent.

B. Red has never been a dominant Super Champ.


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Dark Destroyer wrote:
johnbludger wrote:nigel our first 2 matches did not lag at all. when i lost the title to you those matches skipped every 5 seconds and i consider that unfair to me and anyone else that fights in ur bs lag


I always lag what on earth are you going on about?. You fight Boon but that's acceptable?, and it was acceptable when you beat me, your a bullshitter.


boon fights in lag our last 2 fights SKIPPED. every 5 secs it would stop and go, when i beat you for ur title it did not skip. everyone that has been active knows that i complain about unusual skips.

John Record Wins-5341 Lost-2047 KOs-5203 Draw-35 Title Wins- 183 Title Defenses- 1025
JAB Record Wins- 1240 Loss- 160 KOs- 1197 Draw- 18 Title Wins- 25 Title Defenses- 83
Total Record Wins- 6581 Loss- 2207 KOs- 6400 Draw- 53


OB Style: "The John Style"

OB Status: Active

OB Member Since: May 2007

OB Accounts: john / James A. Braddock

OB Class: Hall of Fame

All-Time Winning Streak: 198

1x Superchamp
4x Undisputed champ
208x OB Champ- 1108 Defenses
23x OBA Champion Defenses- 104
35x OBC Champion Defenses- 139
128x OBF Champion Defenses- 830
10x OBW Champion Defenses- 6
12x Tournament Champion Defenses- 29

The Legend
The Beast
The Machine

"John represents the renaissance of OB. John stepped up and filled the vacuum Fatny left behind. Not only his skills are amazing, also his dedication to keep this game interesting and alive. I was there when he first won the title, I was watching over his shoulder when he bullied all competition, I was there when he became a HOF´er. I may not be a great fighter myself, but I do have eye for talent. John is something special, I told him right after he won his first title. John is the spark that became a flame that turned into a devastating fire. Apart from being a great guy he never stepped down from a challenge and always looked to square off against OB´s best to further improve his skills. Many HOF´ers made short comebacks during the year John reigned OB, only to be knocked out by Big Bad John." - Dick E. Boon

"The thing with John is that he's just so extremely accurate, both in offense and in defense. There's some punches I consider myself a master of, like the small hook and the long upper. Well they're useless against John no matter how well you throw them, he just keeps blocking 90% of them and hurting you in the process. Speaking of which...if he hurts you (and he will), you better move your head a lot because he also happens to be one of the best finishers i've ever seen. Basically if you're not extremely good AND creative, you'll end up on the floor. A fine addition to the hall of fame indeed." - Fatny
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Tyrant wrote:Settle it in the ring...

Best of 7 series

It seems like Viper has a lot of hatred towards me these days. I'd love to pound him out in a best of 7 series. My prediction: Obama wins 4-0

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