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28/01/2009 14:28:11
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Dark Destroyer
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Ok John, we both hold two titles each, let's fight for superchamp status, what do ya say?.
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8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
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28/01/2009 15:04:04
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Barrack Obama
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No disrespect, but why should that count as Super Champ status? I think you guys should defend against others and see if you can hang on to those titles first. After you make several defenses and establish that you can keep those titles against most, next you should attempt to unify.
I just think it's sort of cheapens the accomplishment if you beat John for his two titles, but in reality 2 of them were handed to you without you having to fight anyone for them. In that case, it's like you won two titles to become Super Champ.
Good luck to the both of you.
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28/01/2009 15:07:37
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Dark Destroyer
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Barrack Obama wrote:No disrespect, but why should that count as Super Champ status? I think you guys should defend against others and see if you can hang on to those titles first. After you make several defenses and establish that you can keep those titles against most, next you should attempt to unify.
I just think it's sort of cheapens the accomplishment if you beat John for his two titles, but in reality 2 of them were handed to you without you having to fight anyone for them. In that case, it's like you won two titles to become Super Champ.
Good luck to the both of you.
No disrespect, but cheap?, what like retiring, making a new name and beating bums to win all 4?, I'm not here for an argument. I have paid my dues and beat alot of good fighters to get to rank 1, so it wasn't "two fights".
I remember unstop being in a similar situation yet it counted for him, in my eyes getting to rank one and being there for about a month is alot harder than wining 2 fights to become champ and anyway to become superchamp you have to win a minimum of 4 fights.
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30 TIME OBW CHAMPION
19 TIME OBC CHAMPION
31 TIME OBA CHAMPION
47 TIME OBF CHAMPION
8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
1 TIME SUPERCHAMP & UNDISPUTED CHAMPION
DEFENCES: 373
"Dark Destroyer" Nigel Benn
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28/01/2009 15:17:02
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Barrack Obama
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Dark Destroyer wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:No disrespect, but why should that count as Super Champ status? I think you guys should defend against others and see if you can hang on to those titles first. After you make several defenses and establish that you can keep those titles against most, next you should attempt to unify.
I just think it's sort of cheapens the accomplishment if you beat John for his two titles, but in reality 2 of them were handed to you without you having to fight anyone for them. In that case, it's like you won two titles to become Super Champ.
Good luck to the both of you.
No disrespect, but cheap?, what like retiring, making a new name and beating bums to win all 4?, I'm not here for an argument. I have paid my dues and beat alot of good fighters to get to rank 1, so it wasn't "two fights".
I remember unstop being in a similar situation yet it counted for him, in my eyes getting to rank one and being there for about a month is alot harder than wining 2 fights to become champ and anyway to become superchamp you have to win a minimum of 8 fights.
I didn't say you were cheap, just saying that route cheapens the Super Champ status. That, however, is just my opinion.
Ricky Hatton beat a lot of very good fighters, the best around actually. The top fighters had plenty of chances to take those titles.
I wasn't around when Unstoppable became Super Champ so I can't comment on that situation.
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28/01/2009 15:19:05
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Professor
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Barrack Obama wrote:No disrespect, but why should that count as Super Champ status? I think you guys should defend against others and see if you can hang on to those titles first. After you make several defenses and establish that you can keep those titles against most, next you should attempt to unify.
I just think it's sort of cheapens the accomplishment if you beat John for his two titles, but in reality 2 of them were handed to you without you having to fight anyone for them. In that case, it's like you won two titles to become Super Champ.
Good luck to the both of you.
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28/01/2009 15:21:51
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Barrack Obama
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BTW, I've no doubt that either Nigel, John, or Red Viper are going to soon become Super Champs. However, it'll be interesting to see which one of them actually remains Super Champ the longest while facing the best around.
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28/01/2009 15:26:45
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Dark Destroyer
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Barrack Obama wrote:
Dark Destroyer wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:No disrespect, but why should that count as Super Champ status? I think you guys should defend against others and see if you can hang on to those titles first. After you make several defenses and establish that you can keep those titles against most, next you should attempt to unify.
I just think it's sort of cheapens the accomplishment if you beat John for his two titles, but in reality 2 of them were handed to you without you having to fight anyone for them. In that case, it's like you won two titles to become Super Champ.
Good luck to the both of you.
No disrespect, but cheap?, what like retiring, making a new name and beating bums to win all 4?, I'm not here for an argument. I have paid my dues and beat alot of good fighters to get to rank 1, so it wasn't "two fights".
I remember unstop being in a similar situation yet it counted for him, in my eyes getting to rank one and being there for about a month is alot harder than wining 2 fights to become champ and anyway to become superchamp you have to win a minimum of 8 fights.
I didn't say you were cheap, just saying that route cheapens the Super Champ status. That, however, is just my opinion.
Ricky Hatton beat a lot of very good fighters, the best around actually. The top fighters had plenty of chances to take those titles.
I wasn't around when Unstoppable became Super Champ so I can't comment on that situation.
I could go into "Ricky Hatton's" record but I won't, it's not about that.
I'll give you an example of a real life event. If David Haye won a couple of titles because he was the mandatory challenger and the champion retires and Haye then get's given his titles, then beats another guy for the other two, he would be regarded as the undisputed champion of the world, no matter how he did it. Would people think he is on a level with HOFers like Ali, Frazier or Holyfield?, no, but he would be regarded as a "superchamp" none the less.
I do respect what you say though and understand completely where you are coming from and I definately know we would be the weakest superchamp out of all the guys that have achieved the feat in the past, but I also happen to think that I am the best active player on the game at the moment and have beaten alot of great fighters past and present to be given the chance to prove as champion what I have just said.
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30 TIME OBW CHAMPION
19 TIME OBC CHAMPION
31 TIME OBA CHAMPION
47 TIME OBF CHAMPION
8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
1 TIME SUPERCHAMP & UNDISPUTED CHAMPION
DEFENCES: 373
"Dark Destroyer" Nigel Benn
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28/01/2009 15:29:37
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Professor
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Dark Destroyer wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:
Dark Destroyer wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:No disrespect, but why should that count as Super Champ status? I think you guys should defend against others and see if you can hang on to those titles first. After you make several defenses and establish that you can keep those titles against most, next you should attempt to unify.
I just think it's sort of cheapens the accomplishment if you beat John for his two titles, but in reality 2 of them were handed to you without you having to fight anyone for them. In that case, it's like you won two titles to become Super Champ.
Good luck to the both of you.
No disrespect, but cheap?, what like retiring, making a new name and beating bums to win all 4?, I'm not here for an argument. I have paid my dues and beat alot of good fighters to get to rank 1, so it wasn't "two fights".
I remember unstop being in a similar situation yet it counted for him, in my eyes getting to rank one and being there for about a month is alot harder than wining 2 fights to become champ and anyway to become superchamp you have to win a minimum of 8 fights.
I didn't say you were cheap, just saying that route cheapens the Super Champ status. That, however, is just my opinion.
Ricky Hatton beat a lot of very good fighters, the best around actually. The top fighters had plenty of chances to take those titles.
I wasn't around when Unstoppable became Super Champ so I can't comment on that situation.
I could go into "Ricky Hatton's" record but I won't, it's not about that.
I'll give you an example of a real life event. If David Haye won a couple of titles because he was the mandatory challenger and the champion retires and Haye then get's given his titles, then beats another guy for the other two, he would be regarded as the undisputed champion of the world, no matter how he did it. Would people think he is on a level with HOFers like Ali, Frazier or Holyfield?, no, but he would be regarded as a "superchamp" none the less.
I do respect what you say though and understand completely where you are coming from and I definately know we would be the weakest superchamp out of all the guys that have achieved the feat in the past, but I also happen to think that I am the best active player on the game at the moment and have beaten alot of great fighters past and present to be given the chance to prove as champion what I have just said.
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28/01/2009 15:31:18
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Barrack Obama
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Dark Destroyer wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:
Dark Destroyer wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:No disrespect, but why should that count as Super Champ status? I think you guys should defend against others and see if you can hang on to those titles first. After you make several defenses and establish that you can keep those titles against most, next you should attempt to unify.
I just think it's sort of cheapens the accomplishment if you beat John for his two titles, but in reality 2 of them were handed to you without you having to fight anyone for them. In that case, it's like you won two titles to become Super Champ.
Good luck to the both of you.
No disrespect, but cheap?, what like retiring, making a new name and beating bums to win all 4?, I'm not here for an argument. I have paid my dues and beat alot of good fighters to get to rank 1, so it wasn't "two fights".
I remember unstop being in a similar situation yet it counted for him, in my eyes getting to rank one and being there for about a month is alot harder than wining 2 fights to become champ and anyway to become superchamp you have to win a minimum of 8 fights.
I didn't say you were cheap, just saying that route cheapens the Super Champ status. That, however, is just my opinion.
Ricky Hatton beat a lot of very good fighters, the best around actually. The top fighters had plenty of chances to take those titles.
I wasn't around when Unstoppable became Super Champ so I can't comment on that situation.
I could go into "Ricky Hatton's" record but I won't, it's not about that.
I'll give you an example of a real life event. If David Haye won a couple of titles because he was the mandatory challenger and the champion retires and Haye then get's given his titles, then beats another guy for the other two, he would be regarded as the undisputed champion of the world, no matter how he did it. Would people think he is on a level with HOFers like Ali, Frazier or Holyfield?, no, but he would be regarded as a "superchamp" none the less.
I do respect what you say though and understand completely where you are coming from and I definately know we would be the weakest superchamp out of all the guys that have achieved the feat in the past, but I also happen to think that I am the best active player on the game at the moment and have beaten alot of great fighters past and present to be given the chance to prove as champion what I have just said.
I too understand where you're coming from, and you make valid points.
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28/01/2009 15:34:35
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Dark Destroyer
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Barrack Obama wrote:
Dark Destroyer wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:
Dark Destroyer wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:No disrespect, but why should that count as Super Champ status? I think you guys should defend against others and see if you can hang on to those titles first. After you make several defenses and establish that you can keep those titles against most, next you should attempt to unify.
I just think it's sort of cheapens the accomplishment if you beat John for his two titles, but in reality 2 of them were handed to you without you having to fight anyone for them. In that case, it's like you won two titles to become Super Champ.
Good luck to the both of you.
No disrespect, but cheap?, what like retiring, making a new name and beating bums to win all 4?, I'm not here for an argument. I have paid my dues and beat alot of good fighters to get to rank 1, so it wasn't "two fights".
I remember unstop being in a similar situation yet it counted for him, in my eyes getting to rank one and being there for about a month is alot harder than wining 2 fights to become champ and anyway to become superchamp you have to win a minimum of 8 fights.
I didn't say you were cheap, just saying that route cheapens the Super Champ status. That, however, is just my opinion.
Ricky Hatton beat a lot of very good fighters, the best around actually. The top fighters had plenty of chances to take those titles.
I wasn't around when Unstoppable became Super Champ so I can't comment on that situation.
I could go into "Ricky Hatton's" record but I won't, it's not about that.
I'll give you an example of a real life event. If David Haye won a couple of titles because he was the mandatory challenger and the champion retires and Haye then get's given his titles, then beats another guy for the other two, he would be regarded as the undisputed champion of the world, no matter how he did it. Would people think he is on a level with HOFers like Ali, Frazier or Holyfield?, no, but he would be regarded as a "superchamp" none the less.
I do respect what you say though and understand completely where you are coming from and I definately know we would be the weakest superchamp out of all the guys that have achieved the feat in the past, but I also happen to think that I am the best active player on the game at the moment and have beaten alot of great fighters past and present to be given the chance to prove as champion what I have just said.
I too understand where you're coming from, and you make valid points.
Thanks...and maybe you can come back and test whoever becomes superchamp (if anyone does) and see how good they really are.
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30 TIME OBW CHAMPION
19 TIME OBC CHAMPION
31 TIME OBA CHAMPION
47 TIME OBF CHAMPION
8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
1 TIME SUPERCHAMP & UNDISPUTED CHAMPION
DEFENCES: 373
"Dark Destroyer" Nigel Benn
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28/01/2009 16:40:41
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uhh...not many people defending the lower ranks at the moment either as everyone fights in the tourny room all the time. (At least when I'm on)
The tourny room champ, now that's the real belt holder.
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28/01/2009 16:52:16
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Lol.
Ricky i believe this. A win is a win in boxing so it should be like that on here...not called cheap and wht not.
in my opinion Nigel is the best player right now. (that is active)
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28/01/2009 17:14:35
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Dark Destroyer wrote:Ok John, we both hold two titles each, let's fight for superchamp status, what do ya say?.
You are forgetting one other person that is in the title hunt also and that is me.
I am ranked in the top 5 in three out of the four titles. So I am also a threat to the title run as well. So be prepared, I might beat the champs who knows. There are some other people that are a threat to a title as well. Good luck of becoming superchamp because I might acheive that status as well.
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Greatest Slugger in OB History
The most hardworking fighter in OB
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More than 270 defenses.
Multiple time undisputed champion
Real close of becoming superchamp
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28/01/2009 17:24:14
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Dark Destroyer
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Red Viper wrote:
Dark Destroyer wrote:Ok John, we both hold two titles each, let's fight for superchamp status, what do ya say?.
You are forgetting one other person that is in the title hunt also and that is me.
I am ranked in the top 5 in three out of the four titles. So I am also a threat to the title run as well. So be prepared, I might beat the champs who knows. There are some other people that are a threat to a title as well.
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60 time Onlineboxing Champion
118 title defences in all
19- OBC
14- OBW
10- OBA
4- SA
8- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
The most hardworking fighter in OB
Another OB Legend
OB Name- Red Viper
What has that got to do with me and John organizing a superhchamp matchup as we both have two titles each?.
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30 TIME OBW CHAMPION
19 TIME OBC CHAMPION
31 TIME OBA CHAMPION
47 TIME OBF CHAMPION
8 TIME EURO CHAMPION
1 TIME TOURNAMENT CHAMPION
1 TIME SUPERCHAMP & UNDISPUTED CHAMPION
DEFENCES: 373
"Dark Destroyer" Nigel Benn
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28/01/2009 17:29:59
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Dark Destroyer wrote:
Red Viper wrote:
Dark Destroyer wrote:Ok John, we both hold two titles each, let's fight for superchamp status, what do ya say?.
You are forgetting one other person that is in the title hunt also and that is me.
I am ranked in the top 5 in three out of the four titles. So I am also a threat to the title run as well. So be prepared, I might beat the champs who knows. There are some other people that are a threat to a title as well.
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60 time Onlineboxing Champion
118 title defences in all
19- OBC
14- OBW
10- OBA
4- SA
8- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
The most hardworking fighter in OB
Another OB Legend
OB Name- Red Viper
What has that got to do with me and John organizing a superhchamp matchup as we both have two titles each?.
For example, what happens one of you lose the title to me or someone else before you guys organize the superchamp fights because that might be a possibility sometimes depends on what the champ does beforhand.
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60 time Onlineboxing Champion
118 title defences in all
19- OBC
14- OBW
10- OBA
4- SA
8- OBF
2- NA
1- Tournament
1- PDP
Greatest KO Artist In OB History
Greatest Slugger in OB History
The most hardworking fighter in OB
Another OB Legend
OB Name- Red Viper
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Was one of the minority that broke Rocky Marciano's defense in half.
Won a title by KO'ing the opponent with only Uppercuts
The Greatest KO Artist in OB History
120x Online Boxing World Champion
More than 270 defenses.
Multiple time undisputed champion
Real close of becoming superchamp
I am the punishment of God…
If you had not committed great sins,
God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you- Genghis Khan
Respect yourself and others will respect you- Confucius
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To see what is right, and not to do it, is want of courage or of principle- Confucius
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