Rocky Marciano wrote:I do not really play this game anymore and have not been playing "seriously" for a good while. I just pop in and out every once in awhile. Not that I could play seriosly as for some reason OB2D skip lags a lot these days. Might be related to server, might be transatlantic connections etc.

Anyway HTF and I had a match. Neither of us play actively anymore so it was a fair setting. He sent me a challenge and I accepted. Since it was HTF I decided to take it seriously and not mess around.

Here is the match: http://onlineboxing.net/applet/index.jsp?fight_id=771792

and here is the play by play and explanation of strategy:


Round 1: HTF came out aggressively, which took me by a surprise. 10-8 round to him.

Round 2: I decided that if that is really the way he wants to box against me I will return him the favor. 8-10 round to me.

Round 3: Having had success in round 2 with more aggressive strategy I made a strategic call to really check his defense. My goal was to force KO him. His defense proved to be too good and I noticed that I might lose too much stamina so towards the end I slowed down. 7-10 round to me.

Round 4: I started with less stamina than HTF, which made me bit worried but since my strategy was working well I decided to slow downlittle bit but still keep the heat on. I started out well but then he got "inside" of my timing and managed to land a couple good ones. Since I started out well I did not want to give him this round and went for my own moves. He kept landing solid so it was a toss up.

Round 5: I decided to go forwards and managed to corner him but he did the rope a dope. Now from experience I knew he is very good at that and did not really like what is going on in the ring. I started to pay attention to his main power punch combination he relies on.

Round 6: HTF falls back for counter punching. He is very good at that and I knew I am in bit of a trouble unless I get inside of his timing. He was also losing the stamina war and I did not want him to recover his stamina. His point boxing and counter puching stamina saving strategy killed me in this round.

Round 7: Round starts and I am determined to unriddle his point box counter style. I go forward and start the work towards figuring it out. Basically what I do is try lot of different moves and combinations. My mistake was staying too stationary and not controlling the distance enough. Well HTF controlled the distance, which allowed him to land more and better quality. I lost my stamina advantage and knew that I am only leading by 1 point. Total socre is now 64 - 65 to me.

Round 8: Round starts with both having quite even stamina. HTF goes for rope a dope while I am still trying to figure it out. I get hit bad and fall back which forces him to follow. He tries to go for the KO but finds it hard to land in a decisive combo. Close but no cigar. HTF gets good points but it costs him quite a lot of stamine

Round 9: Round starts and I just decided that if he wants to back up for the rope a dope he can do that but I do NOT have to follow him. I stay at the middle and we box a little. By now I am aware of his powerpunch combo, respect his power and get an idea how to counter that rope a dope. I decide to go in to see if this idea works. I work with patience and am extra careful for his power punch combo. I am both landing more and landing more quality punches, which leads to 9-10 round to me and total score is now 83 - 82.

Round 10: HTF comes out with different strategy since his rope a dope got coutered in round 9. He uses the so called "Edder defense" couple of times. I know that defense well and decide just to bulldoze forwards and manage to get him. Since it is round 10, I am leading the stamina war and it is beginning to be hard to recover I decide to return the favor and go for the kill. Close but no cigar. I get good points but it costs me quite a lot of stamina.

Round 11: This is the round that is THE so called "winning round". Trying to KO/TKO HTF in round 10 cost me a lot of stamina but it almost does not matter since I am leading. I start the round with a goal of flooring him once in my mind. I wanted to floor him once, which would have enable me to just ride out and chill rest of the remaining rounds for point victory. I go in strong and find that to be a horrible decision especially against elite fighter like HTF. I get tagged and then tagged more and find out that I can not recover "health" to fight back.

Round 12: Well all bets are off. Round 11 destroyed my strategy and now. I know it has to be perfecly even steven. Nothing left to do than to go and box him. I manage to win the round but notice that both of us have most of our stamina gone, which means we both are in position of not being able to recover from getting really hurt.

Round 13: Round starts with my body being hurt. I figure that I am leading in points but also think that whoever lands first strong combo will win via TKO or KO and start planning landing my own first. Well HTF manages to land a power shot into my head which puts me in position of having both head and body hurt and me having to defend. I try to buy time by defending carefully while timing for a strong counter punch. HTF is not falling for it and backs up a little. Then he comes forwards using careful timing and care. Since even a jab counts for a lot now he can afford to really pick me apart. There is no recovering even from weakest punches. I try to fish for counter but am forced just to defend like a turtle. HTF is careful and just too skilled to mess up in a situation like this. Too little stamina for recovery and too much time reminding in the round. He knows it and takes the win.

Round Judge1 Total Judge2 Total Judge3 Total
1 10 - 8 10 - 8 10 - 8 10 - 8 10 - 8 10 - 8
2 8 - 10 18 - 18 9 - 9 19 - 17 8 - 10 18 - 18
3 7 - 10 25 - 28 7 - 10 26 - 27 7 - 10 25 - 28
4 10 - 9 35 - 37 10 - 9 36 - 36 9 - 10 34 - 38
5 10 - 9 45 - 46 10 - 9 46 - 45 10 - 9 44 - 47
6 10 - 9 55 - 55 10 - 9 56 - 54 10 - 9 54 - 56
7 9 - 10 64 - 65 10 - 9 66 - 63 10 - 9 64 - 65
8 10 - 7 74 - 72 10 - 7 76 - 70 10 - 7 74 - 72
9 9 - 10 83 - 82 9 - 10 85 - 80 9 - 10 83 - 82
10 7 - 10 90 - 92 7 - 10 92 - 90 7 - 10 90 - 92
11 10 - 8 100 - 100 10 - 8 102 - 98 10 - 8 100 - 100
12 9 - 10 109 - 110 9 - 10 111 - 108 9 - 10 109 - 110
13 10 - 7 119 - 117 10 - 7 121 - 115 10 - 7 119 - 117

Redneck wrote:

Rocky Marciano wrote:
Might be related to server, might be transatlantic connections etc.

i got similar problems for month now. Not skipping but my ping raised to +10. for guys with >100 ping that would be no problem but with a 140 ping it matters a lot for me. Thats why i asked mikkel to change it to the OB3D way called peer to peer. In that case we would have 30-50 ping to play. It would be a better connection for half of the OB-people (Trpche, Boon, Crank, Polski, you, me and a lot of more people and new people will find the game more attractiv....even for Mikkel because he is from denmark(?). You retired because of connection-problems (skips in games), i retired because of connection problems (+10 ping), polski retired because of transatlantic ping...all constant players (dont know the real amount of ppl left cause of this reason...)
I hope mikkel will show mercy and find the time to do it one day.
But i think the more i beg to do it the smaller the chance to get it if i know my mikkel right So i dont send anything regarding p2p anymore.

Redneck

Mikkel wrote:

Redneck wrote:

Rocky Marciano wrote:
Might be related to server, might be transatlantic connections etc.

i got similar problems for month now. Not skipping but my ping raised to +10. for guys with >100 ping that would be no problem but with a 140 ping it matters a lot for me. Thats why i asked mikkel to change it to the OB3D way called peer to peer. In that case we would have 30-50 ping to play. It would be a better connection for half of the OB-people (Trpche, Boon, Crank, Polski, you, me and a lot of more people and new people will find the game more attractiv....even for Mikkel because he is from denmark(?). You retired because of connection-problems (skips in games), i retired because of connection problems (+10 ping), polski retired because of transatlantic ping...all constant players (dont know the real amount of ppl left cause of this reason...)
I hope mikkel will show mercy and find the time to do it one day.
But i think the more i beg to do it the smaller the chance to get it if i know my mikkel right So i dont send anything regarding p2p anymore.

Redneck

Why dont you try to change ISP ? I know that helped some before. I cant really "find mercy and do it one day" since it will take more than one day, and I dont have time and what time i have, i spent it on 3d.

Dick E. Boon 2 wrote:Are you serious John? Rockies post was probably the most boring post this trimester. I quit reading after 3 lines, but maybe it got exciting after that.

HTF, don´t be a pussy, fight Reaper. Show us who the better man is.
If not, John take that belt away from HTF and deliver the showdown with Reaper. HTF is like Floyd Mayweather, tremendous skills but not willing to test his skills against somebody that could be a threat. HOF unworthy.
(now HTF will probably ban me again just like he did on 2 occassions before when I disagreed with him)

Just for the record, Reaper is an asshole but a champ is an asshole AND a PUSSY if he doesnt defend his belt against one of the very best players around.

Redneck wrote:

Mikkel wrote:

Redneck wrote:

Rocky Marciano wrote:
Might be related to server, might be transatlantic connections etc.

i got similar problems for month now. Not skipping but my ping raised to +10. for guys with >100 ping that would be no problem but with a 140 ping it matters a lot for me. Thats why i asked mikkel to change it to the OB3D way called peer to peer. In that case we would have 30-50 ping to play. It would be a better connection for half of the OB-people (Trpche, Boon, Crank, Polski, you, me and a lot of more people and new people will find the game more attractiv....even for Mikkel because he is from denmark(?). You retired because of connection-problems (skips in games), i retired because of connection problems (+10 ping), polski retired because of transatlantic ping...all constant players (dont know the real amount of ppl left cause of this reason...)
I hope mikkel will show mercy and find the time to do it one day.
But i think the more i beg to do it the smaller the chance to get it if i know my mikkel right So i dont send anything regarding p2p anymore.

Redneck

Why dont you try to change ISP ? I know that helped some before. I cant really "find mercy and do it one day" since it will take more than one day, and I dont have time and what time i have, i spent it on 3d.

i dont wanna change my ISP because i have good connection on every other online-game. In case of a change its no garantie that my connection stay on that high level (30-60 ping on nearly every other online game). Maybe its more bad for every game then.
If you dont find the mercy for me and the other high-ping guys to change it to the way OB3D works its ok for me. So i stay retired. I got not the power to change it.
But i am really sad because i liked the game and the way it works. But its no "armageddon" for me if you decide to let it run as before.
So i step into the line that left the game due to the obsolete way to play it online (Crank, Polski, Rocky, Me...).
Wish you luck with your games.

Redneck

Dick E. Boon 2 wrote:Are you serious John? Rockies post was probably the most boring post this trimester. I quit reading after 3 lines, but maybe it got exciting after that.

HTF wrote:Every one has had connection problems one way or another. Most fight through it and just deal with it.

Mikkel wrote:

Redneck wrote:

Mikkel wrote:

Redneck wrote:

Rocky Marciano wrote:
Might be related to server, might be transatlantic connections etc.

i got similar problems for month now. Not skipping but my ping raised to +10. for guys with >100 ping that would be no problem but with a 140 ping it matters a lot for me. Thats why i asked mikkel to change it to the OB3D way called peer to peer. In that case we would have 30-50 ping to play. It would be a better connection for half of the OB-people (Trpche, Boon, Crank, Polski, you, me and a lot of more people and new people will find the game more attractiv....even for Mikkel because he is from denmark(?). You retired because of connection-problems (skips in games), i retired because of connection problems (+10 ping), polski retired because of transatlantic ping...all constant players (dont know the real amount of ppl left cause of this reason...)
I hope mikkel will show mercy and find the time to do it one day.
But i think the more i beg to do it the smaller the chance to get it if i know my mikkel right So i dont send anything regarding p2p anymore.

Redneck

Why dont you try to change ISP ? I know that helped some before. I cant really "find mercy and do it one day" since it will take more than one day, and I dont have time and what time i have, i spent it on 3d.

i dont wanna change my ISP because i have good connection on every other online-game. In case of a change its no garantie that my connection stay on that high level (30-60 ping on nearly every other online game). Maybe its more bad for every game then.
If you dont find the mercy for me and the other high-ping guys to change it to the way OB3D works its ok for me. So i stay retired. I got not the power to change it.
But i am really sad because i liked the game and the way it works. But its no "armageddon" for me if you decide to let it run as before.
So i step into the line that left the game due to the obsolete way to play it online (Crank, Polski, Rocky, Me...).
Wish you luck with your games.

Redneck

get it into your HEAD..I HAVE NO TIME TO FIX IT. This is a hobby project, I do what I have time to do, and what I feel like doing.

"due to the obsolete way to play it "

Theres nothing obsolete about playing over a server, it's p2p that is obsolete, because it's easier to cheat. If anything is obsolete, it's your connection...