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monkeytail wrote:
Barrack Obama wrote:
chopper81 wrote:OFFICIAL COMUBOX STATISTICS FOR BERNARD HOPKINS V JOE CALZAGHE

-TOTAL PUNCHES LANDED - HOPKINS- 127
CALZAGHE- 232
-TOTAL PUNCHES THROWN- HOPKINS- 468
CALZAGHE- 707
-SUCCESS RATE - HOPKINS- 27%
- CALZAGHE- 33%

POWER PUNCHES LANDED - HOPKINS- 116
- CALZAGHE- 187
POWER PUNCHES THROWN- HOPKINS- 375
- CALZAGHE- 483
SUCCESS RATE - HOPKINS-31%
- CALZAGHE-39%

SO CALZAGHE THREW MORE AND HAD A BETTER SUCCESS RATE WHICH INCLUDES POWER PUNCHES ASWELL AS JABS SO CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW IN THERE OPINION HE LOST???

I don't think he lost but he didn't dominate Hopkins. Most of the punches he landed were pitty pat slaps.


Power punches are considered everything other than a jab. Therefor the 116 power punches that Hopkins landed were more convincing than any number of slaps from Calslappy be it 187 or 287. Slaps should not be counted in compubox.

If you believe in compubox, they have to be counted. However, I don't believe the actual judges should put great emphasis on those slaps.

Personally, I felt Hops/Calzaghe was a crappy fight, but if I'm forced to pick a winner, I go with Calzaghe. He seemed to have the physical edge and had Hopkins complaining about the rough housing, something he rarely ever does.
Sorry to hear that Black Bear. Good luck bro.
sterlihalla wrote:lol sanchez u have urself in alot of ur awards there rigged!

Yes. I just wanted to mention some categories I felt to be worthy. haha

I only mentioned my name once in Goldenboy's awards.
I would add a few more categories which I feel are pretty important.

Best Comeback By a Vet - Salvador-Sanchez

Biggest Ducker - Redneck

Fighter W/Most Alts - Redneck/Rocky

Fastest Hands - Fatny/Salvador-Sanchez

Biggest Attention Whores - Redneck/Dick

Paper Champion of the Year - Redneck

1. Most dominant Fatny

2. Most improved don't know

3. Best up and comer don't know

4. Most overrated don't know

5. Most underrated X-treme Skillz

6. Ko Artist Fatny

7. Best technical boxer Fatny

8. Best style Fatny

9. Best defence Sal

10. Most declined Dick

11. Most resiliant Viper

12. Best shit talker Yacoob

13. Most respected Larry Holmes

14. Most hated Redneck

15. Least improved don't know

16. Biggest complainer Dick

17. fastest rising star don't know

18. Most fights of 08 Edder/Viper

19. Best slugger Fatny

20. Wounded tiger. (most dangerous when hurt) don't know

21. Best pressure fighting Fatny

22. Most boring style Redneck

23. Most exciting style Viper

24. Best rivalry don't know

25. Next HOFer don't know
HTF wrote:
sterlihalla wrote:
HTF wrote:Pavlik has been overrated. I dont care what any one says Ive always told people and I knew Bernard was going to shut him down thats why I put a good size bet on him. By the way I think Jones has a good chance to beat Joe even with his weak chin. I dont think Joe has tons of power and I been watching every fight of his!!!! He throws wide some times and gets sloppy... We all know Roy is quick and sharp and it only takes 1 punch. I am not claiming he will dominate but he has a good chance more then people are giving hm. We will see next month.

I disagree Roy jones gave up his knockout power a long time ago when he decided to be kind to his opponants and not knock them out when he could of this is because of what happened to his friend gerald McClellan.
Another reason is hes not a risk taker anymore because of what happened in the 2nd tarver fight he got caught throwing a risky combo now hes really gunshy hes afraid of being caught again while throwing a combination.
I severly doubt he will win by knockout because of them reasons i also think his killer instinct has taken alot of knocks too.
What you will see is just Joe winning a comfi decision without much resistance from roy jones.
I use to be a big roy jones fan only like 5 months ago but after seeing what hes doing for money e.g. Fighting tito.
I just dont believe his heart is in it anymore hes just a cash cow now living of his name no wonder he hasnt fought someone whos a natural light heavy with alot of power in a while because he knows about his fine china.


Speed is power and Jones has lots of it. But your right I think Roy has lost his one punch KO power but he still can hurt Joe. If I was to guess how it would happen it would probably be Roy on the ropes Joe throwing while Roy counters with a solid uppercut.

Jones hasn't displayed one punch KO power since his days at 160-168. At 175, it was more his speed that produced the knockdowns.

These days his power doesn't seem to be there as much because he's afraid to commit. He couldn't even KO Trinidad.
chopper81 wrote:OFFICIAL COMUBOX STATISTICS FOR BERNARD HOPKINS V JOE CALZAGHE

-TOTAL PUNCHES LANDED - HOPKINS- 127
CALZAGHE- 232
-TOTAL PUNCHES THROWN- HOPKINS- 468
CALZAGHE- 707
-SUCCESS RATE - HOPKINS- 27%
- CALZAGHE- 33%

POWER PUNCHES LANDED - HOPKINS- 116
- CALZAGHE- 187
POWER PUNCHES THROWN- HOPKINS- 375
- CALZAGHE- 483
SUCCESS RATE - HOPKINS-31%
- CALZAGHE-39%

SO CALZAGHE THREW MORE AND HAD A BETTER SUCCESS RATE WHICH INCLUDES POWER PUNCHES ASWELL AS JABS SO CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN HOW IN THERE OPINION HE LOST???

I don't think he lost but he didn't dominate Hopkins. Most of the punches he landed were pitty pat slaps.
FYI, I will be online tonight offering shots after 8:00 PM (Pacific U.S. time).

BTW, I will be sober this time.
Dick wrote:Everyone´s top 10 is subect to debate. That´s why I suggest Mikkel writes a script and based on that script the top 10 is automatically generated each month.


I recommended that before, but I don't think it could work. For example, let's say you take the top 5 fighters. You then have the top 2 beat the #4 & #5 fighters repeatedly, and now all of their points have been taken away and they aren't even top 20. The script would treat these 2 as nobodies.

The best way is for a special committee of 5 people to submit their top 10 lists. 1st place votes yield 10 points, 2nd - 9 votes, 3rd - 8 votes, etc...

I also think it's pretty clear who the top 1-2 fighters are simply by looking at records. The best fighters are the most consistent at winning more than losing against the rest of the top 10. Now it gets a bit hazy once you get to 3-10. Styles really make fights.

It's also wrong for the #7 fighter to think he's better than the #4 fighter because he may have beaten him the last couple of times they fought. The #4 fighter may struggle against the #7 fighter, but he may be overall more consistent against the other guys in the top 10.

It's hard to analyze records too because a lot of people don't fight as often. So in the end, the best bet is the committee idea. However, we would need five knowledgable and extremely objective individuals to participate.
Dick wrote:We are cool Obama, but cant you just fight me instead of talking to me on the forum?

As I've told you repeatedly. I do not enjoy fighting anyone with a ping over 160 really. It's too slow, and I don't have the patience. In other words, if you want to face me at my best, face me in good speed territory.
Redneck wrote:If you are the Champ you always not tired to tell...so you vacant the titles. Then it should be no problem for you to take em back.
But i think you are a paper-champ. So you keep sitting on your titles.

On the other hand there is no different to the situation now. You are not very often online So noone will see any difference.

Redneck

Obama------>

P.S.: change your avatar and your name obama cause you got nothing in common with this man. You are just a poor paper champ. A Ducker with a crowd of worshiping idiots. I hope you die piece of shit.

Who I haven't I fought? Look at my record. I've pretty much fought all of the top guys since my comeback and have beaten everyone more than they have beaten me, with the exception of Fatny of course.

Sadly, we can't say the same about you. You padded your defenses, you fucking JOKE. Now go play with your dolls.
Dick wrote:I was impressed by HTF performance the other night. He went 12 rds with Rocky Marciano (and all his alts) and won 10 out of 12 rds. Id like to see a tourney with Obama, HTF and Fatny.

What's up Dick?

I just want to say no hard feelings about the BS that's taken place of late. I guess I was just ticked off that you were supporting a ducker like Redneck.

As for your connection, I still think it's crap, but I give you respect for being an active member of this community. We need as many members as we can possibly have.
Paul, I've actually considered doing that. That way it'll spice things up for the rest of you, and I'll get an opportunity to unify all the titles again from scratch when I get back. I'll make my decision tonight.
I'll be heading out of town on a business trip over the next 5-6 days. Therefore, tonight will be the last time I will be able to defend my titles over the next week or so. I will be online around 8:00 P.M. Pacific time (U.S.) if you are interested in a shot.
Dark Destroyer wrote:
Red Viper wrote:
rankings wrote:I am back for the 3rd month doing the unbiased power rankings. if you feel you should be on here messege me and I will check out some of your fights and decide.

1. Salvador sanchez/barrack Obama. Salvador is back to the top. After a long retirement he quickly shook the rust off and now holds every major title in the game. Combining vet smarts with exceptional speed and a never say die attitude sal is the man to beat.

2. Red Viper This will not come as a shock to many. Red viper has always been a force to reckon with and has really stepped up since alot of the other vets have retired. the best slugger there is. If you stand in front of him you will fall down. He is one sided but it doesnt really matter.

3. Chopper81 Chopper has always been a solid fighter. very talented and composed when he fights. He is really starting to step up his boxing game and has broken into the top 5. If he was more active he would probably hold at least one title.

4. Goldenboy69 Goldenboy has always been a thorn in your side, capable of a knockout at a moments notice. He has learned to pace himself better and has beaten the likes of salvador, dirk diggler, and unstoppable in title fights. combining boxing and slugging skills along with good handspeed. He continues to improve daily.

5. Dirk Diggler The king of the high ping players. Dirk Diggler has a horrible connection but a steller record. He has serious skills and I believe he would be even better full speed. Dirk racks up some nice win streaks and continues to be the most contriversial player

6. Captain America Captain America is starting to show his full potential. He is a good well rounded fighter that wins when he should and loses when he should. He is still young in his online boxing career and has the potential to be great

7. Boxa Boxa would be ranked alot higher if he was more active. He is an exceptional boxer with some very slick combos. If he plays more he will be in the top 3 or 4 players. Boxa has the talent to be one of the best.

8. Jigsaw Jigsaw has been around for a while now and has always been a very good fighter. He can beat alot of players and has tough fights when most everyone on this list. the sky is the limit for this young boxer.

9. Redneck Redneck is a good player. He has a boring style that take a long time to crack. Alot of the hype around him is true. He has the skills to do allright but his attitude puts him low on this list. He pads, ducks and makes excuses when fighting most of the guys on this list and until then he will not improve.

10. Paul Dion Paul Dion is back after a long retirement and slowly working his way back up the ladder. I do not know a whole lot about him but I saw a few of his fights when he beat edder1234 and he has some serious potential.

see you in november


Well heres mine but some of these ranks are wrong.

1. Salvador Sanchez- He is obviously the best fighter right now.

2. Red Viper- The best slugger and offensive fighter in OB History. Also has the best KO Percentage of any fighter in history. Has a very unusaul style but its very effective. The jab improved it and became a force since then. One of the best pressure and comback fighters as well and is very underrated by a lot of people. I don't care about what people say he deserves the number two spot.

3. Dirk Diggler/Boondickie- I hate to say this but he defiantly deserves the number three spot. Hey may lag but he is a very good fighter with very good defense. Also a very underestimated by a lot of people except me and TRPCHE.

4. Here to FIght- This guy camback recently but he still has not lost his touch.

5. Chopper81- I haven't fought this guy much recently but he has good boxing skills with a good defence.

6. Goldenboy88- He improved a lot recently and just recently but recently became Champ for a short amount of time by defeating Paul Dion. He has beaten good fighters for titles including Dirk Diggler and Catfish for past titles.

7. Captain America- Also a fighter that improved a lot recently. He has a good offence but may lose at the 2nd half of the fight. He has KO'ed many good fighters including Fatny, Boon and sometimes myself.

8. Paul Dion- He also returned from his retirement but so far he is fighting good. He won titles from both TKOKnockout and won the rematch from goldeboy88.

9. TKOKnockout- I hate to say this but this guy deserves to be in the top 10. A proteige of mine and improved when he came back from his short retirement. He just recently got two very good and important victories over Redneck for the OBW title.

10.Redneck- he may be hated but has a good offence. Has unusual style like me but sometimes is effective. He won the OBW title but just recently lost it.


On the Radar

edder1234- Another student of mne, he diffence somehow improved but his offence is his strong point. He can be force in the near future if he keeps this up. Out of the new breed, he has the best KO percentage.

TRPCHE- He is very underrated fighter that fights a lot better than his record. He has a good defence and a very good lag fighter. He often beats people like Boon.

Jigsaw- He was good but he is not very active right now. If he was he would be Top 10 material. Had to cut his activeness because of school.

Toosmooth- A good veteran fighter but has one of the best hooks in OB History.

tuaman- He is one tough SOB to finish. He has a good offence but he spams a lot to kill his stamina before a 10 round fight is over.
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45 time Online Boxing Champion- all of my accounts
18- OBC
9- OBA
8- OBW
4- SA
2- NA
3- OBF
1- Tournament
Greatest Slugger in OB History
Greatest KO Artist in OB History
Member Since Februray 2003
The First fighter that KO'ed Barrack Obama
The Champion of The Green Monster 1st annual 16 man tournament
Will be a future HOF
OB's Greatest Underdog
OB Name- Red Viper


LOL, this post made me laugh, please don't take any offence in what I'm going to say because you are a very good boxer and perhaps should be rate in the top 3, but two things made me laugh in your post.
1) The 9 other guys in the list get one maybe two sentences, but when writing about yourself you get four sentences saying how great you are, 2) speaking in third person about yourself, the post reminded me of a WWE Wrestlers promo.


I totally agree. It reminded me of something a prime Roy Jones Jr. would do.

Redviper, you're also off on a few things.

1. The best offensive fighter in the game ever has to be Fatny. No doubt about it.

2. You do not have the best KO percentage of all-time. You have to count all of your fights, and even if you calculate it the way you do it, my Barrack ID has a higher KO percentage than any of yours.

3. You were not the first person to KO Barrack. Therefore, fix your signature.

 
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