Joke Calslappy vs Roy "fragile" Jones who ya picking?

Benn I personally think that your a f**ing idiot, but you are right in this post. All fighters no matter how great they are can be criticised for their acomplishments, and Joe Calzzaghe has proven that he deserves respect, but he demanded that respect by beating on a man so past his prime he couldnt see it in the rear view mirror. This is why he will be remembered after hopkins and jones. while calzaghe is an amazing fighter he is not ATG material.

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African Assassin wrote:Benn I personally think that your a f**ing idiot.

You don't even know me, hence why you call me Benn. Besides someone who disrespects a true great has got to be the one who is an idiot.

I've made my point, you are too biased and too imature to have a reasonable debate so I'm done here, once again congratualtions Calzaghe, 10 years as champ, retired undefeated, that's what you will be rememberd for and so it should be.

Its annoyin when ppl say "Joe has no chance, Roy Jones will give him his 1st loss" then the next day ppl say "Roy's past it, I knew he would lose anyway, the win doesnt mean shit"

I honestly think Calzaghe had a chance of beating roy 5 years ago when he could actually punch and KO ppl. But now his hands are fucked he punches light.

Earnie_Shavers wrote:Its annoyin when ppl say "Joe has no chance, Roy Jones will give him his 1st loss" then the next day ppl say "Roy's past it, I knew he would lose anyway, the win doesnt mean shit"

I honestly think Calzaghe had a chance of beating roy 5 years ago when he could actually punch and KO ppl. But now his hands are fucked he punches light.

Finally, someone who has boxing knowledge, that's an excellent point you bring up. It has been well documented that Joe has adpated his style and no longer goes for the knockout because of his hands which makes his achievements all the more amazing.

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Calzaghe is a legend, but a very careful one, picking his opponents at just the right time. I'll stick to my point, he has never fought another great fighter when still in prime. Another question is whos fault that is, Maybe he got ducked or he ducked himself.. none knows for sure.

Thats an interestin point you make Mikkel i remember having this argument with u in game and you never said joe was a legend in fact quite the opposite.I think u will see how good Joe is when you follow kessler from here on in, he won his title back with an explosive KO and i think he will do well. People called for the pavlik fight but then hopkins completely dominated pavlik. But when calzaghe fought hopkins and won (all be it by split decision but hey thats american judges for you) he was washed up evidantley not when u see what he did to pavlik. At the end of the day Joe Calzaghe is a legend the best in the game at changing style to suit his opponant its just a shame some people cant put there national loyalty to one side and admit that he is damn good.I agree he dosnt have the hardest punch but thats not everything in boxing he has the speed accuracy stamina work rate and agility to make up for this hence why he stands 46 fights unbeaten ruling a division for more than a decade and an inspiration to anyone who wants to strap on the gloves.

Bring on Sir Calzaghe for an amazing career.

He defo is damn good, I never said anything else.

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Dark Destroyer wrote:
Now Mr Racist. Loses his first ever fight to a nobody, but then goes on a impressive run of victories before losing to Jones. Big fight lost No 1. He then goes on defending his title against a few good fighters, but mostly bums before he then decides to fight someone decent. But it's a calculated risk as trinidad again punches above his weight, blows up to middleweight and Hopkins' bigger frame counts. He then beats a man who once again fights at a higher weight than he is comfortable win and Hopkins again takes advantage of that and beats a guy who retires and comes back like a yo-yo. he then loses to Taylor twice in a row, first true test of someone very good in their prime like back when Jones beat him, Big fight lost No 2 and No 3. He then beats a out of shape Tarver who made a living out of beating Jones, he then followed it up with a good win against Ronald Wright. He then loses to Joe Calzaghe, Big fight Lost no 4, while also proving why he was in jail, nasty person who is also a racist.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-negler110208&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

oh wait...

Yes Fatny i read that article after the pavlik fight, and I read the original one before the calzaghe fight. Our good friend Nigel Benn claims to know all there is about the sweet science, but doesn't recognize the importance of selling a fight; hence the i'll never lose to a whiteboy comment. Getting back to the point if he were a racist A) He wouldn't have had Freddie Roach as a trainer. B) He wouldn't have been a partener with Richard Schafear and the countless caucasions on the golden boy team. C) Last but not least he wouldn't have comforted a sick and dying WHITE fan and his familly in every way he could. He gave him a diomand watch that he spend thousands on for crying out loud and placed his gloves that he used to beat pavlik in his cascket after the poor kid diea. Anyways Benn you need to open your distorted mind and reolize that you have to hype a fight in order for it to sell.

ps. Calzaghe is a good fighter, and I respect him, but you take nuthugging to a whole new level.

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It amazes me that you guys are defending his terrible comments, if it was the other wya round you both would be on Calzaghe's case. Using the "I hang around with a white guy which means I'm not racist" argument doesn't wash with me.

Look at his statement. He didn't say he didn't like white people, he didn't say he hated them to the point where he wouldn't have one as a coach or as a freind he said he wouldn't lose a fight to a white boy, there are different ways and levels of being aracist and yes it wasn't the worse case you will ever see, but it ws still a racist comment and when asked about it he didn;t retract it he made even more racist comments. And African if you think that was just selling a fight then next time Hatton fights he should say something like from now on I won't lose a to n***** then we will see your reaction then. Amazing how some people brush this off as nothing, disgraceful.

P.S imature kid, I'm not nut hugging I'm debating your weird fanantical obssession with Calzaghe, I see threads about him and you bashing him all the time on here, very weird behaviour. your pro American "nut hugging" makes me laugh. You will never get it.

Anyways back to the fight, I just saw it again on Setanta, what a heart Jones had, beaten, cut badly yet still wanted more, he was even complimenting Calzaghe's punches in the ring, true class, true warrior and legend.

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Just seen the the fight at full speed. As i see it Calslappy never really gained much by then, but RJ Jr. gained alot more. This fight should have happened 10 yrs ago. Once again. But legends are made by their ledgers and the names on them, be it past prime or not.

On a side note, Calslappy does have impressive slaps past prime fighters

And to those who talk about the $$$, that's been a big problem of the fighters in the era of today. It's all about $$$. Oscar Dela Hoya is another cancer to boxing.. With that said though Oscar did fight the best when he was at his prime..

on top of that this win is meaningless RJ is 4-7.. Let's see if Lacy can beat JT seeing that Lacy is the one that made him a star???

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Even tho Roy is my favorite fighter of all time (aside from mayweather)
i give Calzaghe his credit because he fought a smart fight which he does everytime he steps into the ring..
He starts careful feeling out his opponent,planning for the later rounds..which is when he unloads his barrage of punches,effectively doing simultaneous damage and scoring round after round.

Although Mikkel he has fought Bernard Hopkins and Mikkel Kessler
you cant say tht Hopkins is past his prime really because hes still decisively taking out quality opponents because of his ring smarts and experience.
Kessler,a great quality fighter taking apart his opponents up to Calzaghe who BEAT him.

shit. i cant edit my old postings mikkel. I wanted to erase this dumb postings i spammed this forum with but my old Redneck account is banned.
Sorry again for the trouble and everyone should know that you are doing a good job with the games here.
hm...i spam this postive message to the threads my old posting still is on top. All i can do.

Redneck